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A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby RogerS » 27 Jul 2016, 08:00

Is this the most OTT ..nay, hideous..newel post ?
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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby Pinch » 27 Jul 2016, 08:03

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL A NEWEL POST


I'm undecided :eusa-think: :eusa-think:

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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby Wizard9999 » 27 Jul 2016, 08:26

Looked at the link, two thoughts:
1. Surely that was not made for that house must have been recovered from somewhere else
2. Must have another go at getting SWMBO to move away from the London commuter belt so we can get better value property :lol:

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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby tracerman » 27 Jul 2016, 08:52

Crikey - the newel post looks like something designed by Augustus Pugin . The house looks as though it has great potential , but outwardly like something built by Trickets in the fifties ( remember them ? .

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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby Malc2098 » 27 Jul 2016, 08:58

Are you sure it's not photoshopped?!!
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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby Andyp » 27 Jul 2016, 09:01

The stable doors on the workshop look a bot drafty. When do you move in? :D
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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby Wizard9999 » 27 Jul 2016, 09:05

I wonder if that newel post forms part of the listing?
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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby Mike G » 27 Jul 2016, 09:31

Hmmmm

This building isn't Listed under the name given in the Rightmove page. It appears to be "Lower House", and is only listed because it forms part of a group of buildings. Although its age isn't given, I'm guessing that it is an Arts and Crafts -era building. Here is what I think is its Listing:

https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1082236

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Just to show how poor the Listing system is, although the Listing is for "Lower House", the map linked to on the Listing entry clearly shows "Brooklands", which is the name given on the Rightmove page.
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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby Mike G » 27 Jul 2016, 09:32

Wizard9999 wrote:I wonder if that newel post forms part of the listing?


Everything in a Listed Building is listed. Not just that, but everything within the curtilage is covered too.

Any object or structure fixed to the principal building
or buildings and any object or structure within the
curtilage of the building, which, although not fixed to
the building, forms part of the land and has done so
since before 1st July, 1948 is by law to be treated as
part of the listed building.
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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby Wizard9999 » 27 Jul 2016, 10:07

Understand that Mike, what I mean is whether the newel post is a reason for listing / considered an important part of the building from a listing perspective. The only time I have come across this was when looking at a listed building with a view to buying. The listing was concerned with some of the features of the house but the relevant authorities indicated they were not particularly interested in what would happen to some C20 additions at the other end of the building. Obviously would still have required the necessary approvals. In the end we didn't buy as the internal layout at one end of the house was specifically mentioned as part of the reason for listing and that meant it was highly unlikely we would have been able to amend the house as we would have wanted.

All I was trying to get to was whether the listing was likely to prevent one from removing the newel if it were not to one's taste.

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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby StevieB » 27 Jul 2016, 10:16

Yes - Listing is a nightmare once done and it is very hard to get something de-listed. My house is listed due to the sash windows and external appearance specifically, but it also means I cannot do anything to the inside (*cough*) without listed buildings consent.

This then throws up all sorts of silly occurrences - for example to remove some 1960's shutters on the outside of the building (don't ask!) I had to fill in 3 forms confirming I was not damaging the habitat of newts or owls and a variety of other specific wildlife critters - all because the house was listed. Newts are not renowned for living 20ft up a brick wall as far as I am aware.....

As to the house above - don't like newel post, and the garden is too sloping for me. Stream would be a nice feature but how high does it rise, does it make the garden boggy and who has access/rights? Like the house overall however, but going to cost a fair bit to make it habitable - no pics of kitchen or bathroom are always a concern (assuming these are in situ....). go for it Roger - should make a good WIP thread!

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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby Rod » 27 Jul 2016, 11:16

My that's cheap compared to my part of the world especially with 3.5 acres!
I notice that they haven't shown any photos of the kitchen and bathroom so they must be in a bad way? Normally main selling features.
It does say in need of modernisation.

Rubble walls - that will mean no insulation and with those windows, a nightmare to heat.

The more I look, the more I like the newel post even though it would make a better long case clock

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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby Mike G » 27 Jul 2016, 11:25

Rod wrote:.......Rubble walls - that will mean no insulation.........


Rubble in walls doesn't mean what people think it means. It simply means stone that isn't "dressed" (ie squared off and faced). It could be that the wall is solid stone, yet still be called "rubble", but an "ashlar" wall, with highly dressed and even ornate stone, might well be 2 skins with chippings, off-cuts and other loose stuff (even sand) between. Either way, the answer to your question is the same: there will be no insulation.
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Re: A 'Marmite' newel post

Postby RogerS » 27 Jul 2016, 13:14

StevieB wrote:..... go for it Roger - should make a good WIP thread!

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