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Staining wood, deep down.

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Staining wood, deep down.

Postby Andyp » 27 Dec 2016, 21:14

Is it ever possible to stain wood deeper than the first mm of the surface?
For example could I get a very dark stain to penetrate into the centre of 2" thick beech?
Would submerging for days, weeks, months have the desired affect?

I would like to take a lump of beech, cut it in half with a curved line, stain one piece then glue back together and turn a bowl.
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Re: Staining wood, deep down.

Postby 9fingers » 27 Dec 2016, 21:29

I reckon it will be difficult but maybe the right sort of open grain timber and pump down to a very very low pressure ie vacuum might just work.

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Re: Staining wood, deep down.

Postby Rod » 27 Dec 2016, 21:34

I very much doubt it - even pressure treated doesn't go that deep.
Can't you stain that bit afterwards?

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Re: Staining wood, deep down.

Postby Andyp » 27 Dec 2016, 22:06

I can't see me being able to pressure treat any better than the pros and beech is the timber of choice as I have some, hardly close grained either.
I can't see how I can stain, or colour half a bowl without bleeding.

I am trying to avoid using two different types of wood in order to provide contrast. Using two woods and a curved mating line means I would have to make two very accurate cuts and/or use a template and the router to achieve a perfect fit. I have seen it done on youtube but hardly my area of expertise.

Nothing ventured, I suppose.
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Re: Staining wood, deep down.

Postby Phil » 01 Jan 2017, 07:03

Have you tried fuming with amonia?

The beech fumes well and the shade just depends on how long you fume.

I use a plastic tool box, stick the wood inside with amonia in plastic holders and then seal it.
You can leave the box in the sun so that it all gets hot, seems to fume better. (can I send you some sun? Looks like anothe 35c day 8-) )
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Re: Staining wood, deep down.

Postby Mike G » 03 Jan 2017, 13:38

Phil wrote:.......You can leave the box in the sun so that it all gets hot........


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Re: Staining wood, deep down.

Postby Andyp » 03 Jan 2017, 16:01

Thanks for the thought Phil. I am not too keen to fume but out of curiosity does the fuming colour the wood deep down, beyond the surface?
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Re: Staining wood, deep down.

Postby Phil » 04 Jan 2017, 07:18

Mike G wrote:
Phil wrote:.......You can leave the box in the sun so that it all gets hot........


:lol: :lol: :lol:



On Monday morning when I got home from my walk at 06:15AM it was already 24c
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Re: Staining wood, deep down.

Postby Phil » 04 Jan 2017, 07:23

Andyp wrote:Thanks for the thought Phil. I am not too keen to fume but out of curiosity does the fuming colour the wood deep down, beyond the surface?



Andy, the fuming is very easy to do as long as you remember to stop breathing while you open the box to check the colour or top up the ammonia.

I am not sure how deep it goes as I only fumed completed items.

This is a comparison piece, beech, I did many years ago.


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