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Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 03 May 2018, 08:01
by Phil
I need to fit some more hinges to the cupboard doors.

They are currently 'soft-close' from some fifth rate supplier, will see if I can get some better quality.

Ok, now I need a very detailed step by step instruction on how to fit these hunges.

Anyone have an instruction manual?

Thanks
Phil

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 04 May 2018, 07:24
by Phil
Ok, so I bought 4 new hinges, 2 per door.

I bought little plastic grommets and screws (FFS wrong size!!! :evil: :evil: ) did not measure or take a sample. :evil: :evil:

Also bought a Tork Craft Titanium Nitrade Coated 35mm Cup Hinge Wood-boring Bit.
Apparently the correct one for drilling the holes.

Next I will make a small template for drilling the 35mm hole and the screw holes.

First I have to borrow back my trestles that I gave Son 1to establish a large enough work area.

At current performance levels, I will be joining the Xmas club :lol: :lol:

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 04 May 2018, 10:06
by Phil
Ok, bought the right size grommets and screws. :D

Downloaded a 'Monkey-see-monkey-do' guide as well as some YouTube. :D

So, next week might just be on but need wife to help move the doors (after shoulder op still unable to pick up heavy stuff)

Did I mention the Xmas Club? :lol:

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 04 May 2018, 10:08
by Phil
Phil wrote:Ok, bought the right size grommets and screws. :D

Downloaded a 'Monkey-see-monkey-do' guide as well as some YouTube. :D

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So, next week might just be on but need wife to help move the doors (after shoulder op still unable to pick up heavy stuff)

Did I mention the Xmas Club? :lol:

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 04 May 2018, 16:46
by RogerS
Depending on how many you have to do, you might find it worthwhile making a template out of MDF with the hinge and screw holes accurately measured and drilled all the way through. You the clamp the MDF template to your cabinet using the front of the MDF template and front of the cabinet as your reference points.

Then just drill through the existing holes in the template.

Undo the clamp. Move the template. Reclamp. Drill

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 05 May 2018, 07:02
by Phil
RogerS wrote:Depending on how many you have to do, you might find it worthwhile making a template out of MDF with the hinge and screw holes accurately measured and drilled all the way through. You the clamp the MDF template to your cabinet using the front of the MDF template and front of the cabinet as your reference points.

Then just drill through the existing holes in the template.

Undo the clamp. Move the template. Reclamp. Drill



Thanks Roger.

I was about half a step ahead of you and tipped out the offcuts box to see if there is any 3mm MDF.
Nothing. Will have a look through the other boxes, otherwise I will have to saw.

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 05 May 2018, 07:20
by Woolf
Get one of these from Hardware Centre.
http://www.hardwarecentre.co.za/product ... binetmate/
The holes will be spot on. You will have to use Euro screws to fix the mounting plate. These are availalable from Roco. http://www.roco.co.za/contact.php I see they have a branch in Centurion. Roco also have a 4 screw mounting plate which I guess would be less likely to tear out. IIRC I also bought a jig from Roco for marking out the pot and 2 holes

I have repaired holes in a similar situation to that shown in your picture with 2 part epoxy body filler and achieved durable results.

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 05 May 2018, 07:37
by Phil
Woolf wrote:Get one of these from Hardware Centre.
http://www.hardwarecentre.co.za/product ... binetmate/
The holes will be spot on. You will have to use Euro screws to fix the mounting plate. These are availalable from Roco. http://www.roco.co.za/contact.php I see they have a branch in Centurion. Roco also have a 4 screw mounting plate which I guess would be less likely to tear out. IIRC I also bought a jig from Roco for marking out the pot and 2 holes

I have repaired holes in a similar situation to that shown in your picture with 2 part epoxy body filler and achieved durable results.




Thanks very much for the advice.

I will see what Chamberlains have on the epoxy side.

As regards the Hardware Centre – I have been banned from going there, seem to always spend far too much! :lol:
When we lived out that way, it was my favourite ‘go to place’ to look at the machines and tools and browse through the library. 8-)

I see they have been having lots of specials lately.
The demos were also very good when they have the show days.


I will have a look at Roco, Centurion not that far. It looks similar to Gelmar which the Silverton branch is the closest and where I bought the hinges.

For the couple of hinges that I need to fit I will just make a simple jig.

Cheers
Phil

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 05 May 2018, 08:45
by RogerS
3mm is too thin. You need at least 10mm + IMO to give lateral support to the drill bit.

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 05 May 2018, 09:58
by Phil
RogerS wrote:3mm is too thin. You need at least 10mm + IMO to give lateral support to the drill bit.



Ok, thanks, will have another 'scratch around'.

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 27 May 2018, 16:00
by Phil
Some of the work done. (Still another 7 months to Christmas :lol: )

My simple "Pot Hole Jig" I had nothing thicker in the box that the 3mm MDF.

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My Bosch battery drill - charged the battery, and as i started to drill it went flat. The spare is also flat.
Looks like the battery is stuffed.
Had to get out the big Makita drill where adjusting speed is not easy.

First hole drilled, looks ok.

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First hinge in, also looks ok.

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Then the next was an Ooop's ............

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When drilling the the 2 screw holes there was another Oops when the tip of the bit went through the other side.
I went and bought some Tipp-Ex to to paint over the Oop'ses.

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2018, 13:03
by Commander
Glad to see some progress Phil! At this point your output seems to be higher than mine, even if it is a little slow! :shock: :lol:

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 15 Jun 2018, 07:22
by Phil
Commander wrote:Glad to see some progress Phil! At this point your output seems to be higher than mine, even if it is a little slow! :shock: :lol:




Ha,ha! :lol:

I still have 6 months till Christmas, and I certainly do want to be caught in that last minute rush. :lol:

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 08 Dec 2018, 16:28
by Phil
BIG BROWNIE POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8-) 8-)

Beat the Xmas rush to get projects finished :lol: :lol:

I hung both the doors this afternoon, on my own, with not much swearing.

The left one is about 5mm lower than the right one to compensate for the hinge screws opposite one another on the panel.
Poor design by the cupboard people.

Wife visiting her mother so peace and quiet, no interference or advice.


If I ever had to build any cupboards in the life time left to me, I will never use these bloody Pot-Hole hinges.


AND, I replaced the one bathroom light which was damaged when we struck by lightning quite a while back. MORE brownie points.

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2018, 11:00
by TrimTheKing
Aren’t there special screws for that case where they go right through the panel and out the other side then one side screws into the other...


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Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2018, 11:07
by 9fingers
Phil wrote:I replaced the one bathroom light which was damaged when we struck by lightning quite a while back. MORE brownie points.


Do be careful about amassing too many brownie points! Remember if you unexpectedly commit a sin in the eyes of SWMBO you will likely lose the entire stock of points and then have run out of things with which to re-start scoring fresh points.
:lol:

Bob

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2018, 13:19
by TrimTheKing
That's called Capacity Management Bob. :lol:

Re: Fitting cupboard hinges

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2018, 16:00
by 4ndy
9fingers wrote:Do be careful about amassing too many brownie points! Remember if you unexpectedly commit a sin in the eyes of SWMBO you will likely lose the entire stock of points and then have run out of things with which to re-start scoring fresh points.
:lol:

Bob


TrimTheKing wrote:That's called Capacity Management Bob. :lol:



Nothing useful to add, other than the recognition of these important pieces of life advice :lol: :obscene-drinkingcheers: