Rod wrote:That’s a lovely door
Rod
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Rod wrote:That’s a lovely door
Rod
stu wrote:Thanks guys. I'm back on site tomorrow, ill try and get some picks of it with the sidelights in and hardware fitted.
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Coley wrote:Roger, sorry for the hijack
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Coley wrote:Seeing that stormguard fitted made me seriously rethink how I make inward opening doors today.
I'm making a couple of door frames and it mostly use to be the case that the client didn't want to see a shiny strip along the front edge of the door. I think they've got a lot smaller now and they also do them in black. This was some of today's effort -
So much extra work and to be honest I'm not sure it's worth it. A metal stormguard would have been so much quicker and most likely do a better job ! I think stormguards will now be my default with the option of having a plastic water bar and wooden weather bar if they choose they don't like the metal strip
Out of curiosity Stu, what paint did you use on the door that still allowed the grain to show through ?
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You might be onto something there Bob!9fingers wrote:stu wrote:Thanks guys. I'm back on site tomorrow, ill try and get some picks of it with the sidelights in and hardware fitted.
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You are getting quite good at this door lark Stu! Maybe you should take it up professionally
Bob
stu wrote:Spraying is a bit of a black art. It's very unforgiving and I've spent many a long night respraying doors where I've cocked something up. Ultimately though, it's a system like any other process in the workshop. You work out what's good and what's bad and keep doing the good bits and try to work out why the bad bits didn't work! My setup was about 1k-2k as I've bought bargains that have become available rather than going out and buying it all in one go. It's pretty easy to knock up a booth with some filters and add a fan.
I'm not an expert but if I was to give one piece of advice if you are thinking about giving it a go but weren't fully committed, it would be to try and setup yourself for priming - its more forgiving and you'll get used to using the gun. I used to use an £80ish gun from Morrels and get decent results from that. Get used to being clean and tidy and see how you get on. Once you done a large batch of glazing bars you won't look back!
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You do use a lot more paint then other methods, and some systems are more wasteful than others which is why i have 2 different setups for primer and top coat. Paint is relatively cheap though, and the pay off is in the speed and quality. Being a commercial environment I probably have different considerations to someone doing it at home for themselves.RogerS wrote:Isn't spraying wasteful of paint especially on small items ? When I spray painted the bathroom there seemed to be as much paint on the floor as the walls and my impression was that I'd used much more paint than if I'd brushed or rollered.
Spraying is like any skill, you get better over time. You'll know what needs to be clean and when you have to clean it and you avoid making mess where it impacts your workflow and quality. Over time you build up your cleaning kit and become efficient in your prep and clean up. I used to get covered in paint when I started, but now I'm able to keep myself and my work area relatively clean.RogerS wrote:But do you not find that you spend as much time, if not more, in setting up and then cleaning the kit compared to other methods ?
I did watch all of those Malc but wasn't 100% convinced a gun could make all the adjustments and make it into a 'point and shoot' task. I could cover a large panel with my spray gun today, It's getting it to cover evenly and without orange peel, runs etc that's the tricky part- oh, and seeing though the overspray mist I'll have to try waternorne finishes again,even the neighbour at one point asked what the heck was I doing- apparantly the solvent smell took his breath awayMalc2098 wrote:I am certainly no expert and much more of a voyeur, but Peter Millard has had a large job and bit the bullet to spray to save time.
This is the first of 8 of his 'spray' vids which I think could help a pro with decisions about including spraying as well as brushing and rolling to their *. I found it useful.
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Edit! Ha!!The net nazis asterisked my word for an armoury of tools and a football team!
I did buy a 3metre square gazebo to contain the mist- never thought of using that as the booth- nice one I need to find a cheapo extractor fan and fix it in the back- would it need venting outside for waterbased or would I just need to ensure air can come in from somewhere ?sammy.se wrote:Don't forget, you can buy very inexpensive tent-type spray booths, used for tanning!
Check eBay/online. From 15 quid upwards. Great way to have a temporary, space saving spray booth, but only suitable for items up to 1 human size :-)
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9fingers wrote:What is the recess in the brickwork to the lefthand flank wall?
Looks a bit like the bricked up window that you sometimes in an old building that has had windows removed (window tax?) but this looks like newer/new brickwork.
Nice door nevertheless
Bob
Fair enough! It looks a bit bottom heavy at the moment but the client is having the house name sign written in the glass above the door which will help to balance it a bit.Coley wrote:Not too keen on the addition of those sidelight panels if I'm being honest Stu, I think they detract attention from the door. I was imagining a couple of tall panes of glass after seeing the first picture. Looks quite nifty how the panels line through though Smart tidy job
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