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Wadkin RB restoration

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Wadkin RB restoration

Postby wallace » 21 May 2020, 17:21

Its been a little while since I did a resto thread, I have been busy though, I just finished an RS lathe but I've done a couple of threads on them so didn't bother again.
I was going to do a MF morticer but the courier curse struck and it ended up doing a somersault off the tail lift from a great height. I cant blame the driver too much because the seller had firstly attached it to a euro pallet which are totally unsuitable for top heavy lumps of iron, secondly he left the table wound up and motors raised.
The driver should have known better though, I never understand why they want to turn a pallet on the tail lift when it would be much easier to push it straight onto it then remove the pump truck, lower and put the truck back in from the front.
Anyway no one was hurt so that's the main thing.
I never knew 75Okg could bounce but it did, half pike double twist and back slap. This was a really nice machine amazingly no hand wheels broken

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Heres the RB,

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This is the first single phase wadkin I've come across and dates from 1934

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I asked the seller to lie it down to save the couriers a job in dropping it. Shame he didn't take the guard off first to stop damage

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They are pretty simple things to strip down and within an hour it was in bits

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I maybe should have cracked the nuts whilst was on the machine.

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The nuts came off without too much force and I reversed the nut and screwed it back on to check for stretched threads. They screwed on smoothly so this machine has not been manhandled

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You can also remove two clam shells to run moulding irons

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I've never come across split double row bearings before

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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby DaveL » 21 May 2020, 17:41

Ouch, it's sad to see a machine damaged like that. Was it covered by insurance? Do you still have it? What will happen to it?

My little Multico planer have slots in the knifes like that, makes setting that much quicker. I use the Wadkin tool to get the height correct, it's a great be of kit.
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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby kirkpoore1 » 21 May 2020, 17:42

Well, *. I hate it when stuff like that happens.

Good luck on the jointer though.

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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby wallace » 21 May 2020, 18:17

I've still got the morticer and they have offered to reimburse my purchase cost, I got it for a good price and it was worth far more than what I payed. I'm not sure if its salvageable or going to end up a parts machine.
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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby Mike G » 21 May 2020, 19:59

What an absolute nightmare.
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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby wallace » 22 May 2020, 17:08

Mike I think mortice machines must be cursed because that's the third that has fallen over.

To clean any machined surfaces I like to use scotchbrite and brake cleaner. I don't like using wire wheels because it can ruin the surface.

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Wadkin even stamp the ways so you don't mix parts up

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Everything derusted and degreased

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I like to give stuff a coat of zinc primer before I do any fill work

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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby wallace » 28 May 2020, 14:54

A bit more progress, I ran out of ali filler so had to use standard bondo.

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The fence looks crusty but cleaned up well

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The tables look worse than they are

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The steel lips have a bit pitting but the cast iron is clean

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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby Rod » 28 May 2020, 16:09

I’m always amazed on the transformation you manage achieve

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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby DaveL » 28 May 2020, 17:33

Rod wrote:I’m always amazed on the transformation you manage achieve

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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby Mike G » 28 May 2020, 21:30

There are people on Youtube who seem to produce a video every week or two in which they "restore" something (old axes, hammers and knives seem to be favourite, but all sorts of old machinery is done too). None of them do it as sensitively as Wallace.
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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby wallace » 04 Jun 2020, 17:55

A bit more done.

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That was a few hours well spent

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I got the head cleaned and back in

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The bridge guard got damaged in transit, so I heated it up and hit it lots of times to straighten

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I was a bit more gentle with the brass bit, just a bit of heat and twisted it with stilsons, then a couple of slight bashes with a hammer

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I like to use thing which came from a car boot sale in the drill to start prepping the brass

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sanded to 5OOgrit

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I found this inside the motors connection box

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Big cast iron pulley wheel, it had partial holes drilled into the backside to balance it.

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I flushed the bearings and blew the motor out. I was going to take it to bits completely but the end bells were very reluctant to come off so I left well alone.

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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby Malc2098 » 04 Jun 2020, 18:15

Looking good. Blimey, that red's red!
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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby Mike G » 04 Jun 2020, 19:05

wallace wrote:...........I like to use thing which came from a car boot sale in the drill to start prepping the brass
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Is that pneumatic? I've got a pneumatic drum sander and I need a spare part for it. I've no idea who the manufacturer was......but at least I've got a name I can follow up. :D
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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby wallace » 04 Jun 2020, 19:32

Malc2098 wrote:Looking good. Blimey, that red's red!


Pillar box red, cant get any more british than that.

Mike its not pneumatic just has a rubber layer. You just wrap a length of paper around and it is secured with a cam
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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby 9fingers » 04 Jun 2020, 19:45

I think Carroll a small family firm is no more.
The Carroll drums I’ve seen are solid metal not inflatable.

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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby DaveL » 04 Jun 2020, 20:22

9fingers wrote:I think Carroll a small family firm is no more.
The Carroll drums I’ve seen are solid metal not inflatable.

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You are quite right, I have one of the last batch, bought from the wife of the chap who started and ran the firm. Unfortunately he died and there was no one else who could take over.
I modified a spindle to mount it on my bobbin sander, it works a treat. I can put any grit of abrasive on it.
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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby Trevanion » 04 Jun 2020, 22:35

9fingers wrote:I think Carroll a small family firm is no more.
The Carroll drums I’ve seen are solid metal not inflatable.

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The deceased owner's son was looking into perhaps restarting the business last year and was making enquiries on UKW about if there would be interest for them but I haven't seen anything since.
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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby kirkpoore1 » Yesterday, 05:00

wallace wrote:I flushed the bearings and blew the motor out. I was going to take it to bits completely but the end bells were very reluctant to come off so I left well alone.


Oil bath bearings? I don't see a fill tube or port.

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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby wallace » Yesterday, 09:00

kirkpoore1 wrote:
wallace wrote:I flushed the bearings and blew the motor out. I was going to take it to bits completely but the end bells were very reluctant to come off so I left well alone.


Oil bath bearings? I don't see a fill tube or port.

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There greased bearings. There is a grease nipple on the pulley side but nothing on the other end. You have to remove the end cap to re grease.
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Re: Wadkin RB restoration

Postby kirkpoore1 » Yesterday, 13:01

Ah, when you said "flushed the bearings" I was presuming liquid. Interesting that you have to partly disassemble to grease it.

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