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spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Robert » 27 Sep 2018, 15:29

Just changed the blades on my planer thicknesser. Weather is OK today so I'm a bit scared to use it due to my wife complaining about the noise it makes! Think I'll wait for bad weather when no neighbours are in their gardens. Never had a complaint but as it is loud with ear defenders on I'll wait.

So I've read about these spiral cutters that make less noise and don't need the messing about I've just done to fit replacements.

I don't need any bigger than I have now... I just need quieter and better.

This seems to be the cheapest/smallest offering around.

https://www.scosarg.com/itech-260s-plan ... iral-block

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250mm width capacity. £1700 inc.

Interested to hear any thoughts.
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby 9fingers » 27 Sep 2018, 19:14

The digital readout is a cyclometer type device which looks the same as the one supplied by Jet for the early model of the 260 when users complained of the table slipping with vibration.

This did not fix the problem, but simply recorded it was happening. You might recall that I made a retrofit locking device and supplied these to quite a few users.

Jet then fixed the problem with a design change. Depends if Itech have adopted the early jet design or the later one.

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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby RogerS » 27 Sep 2018, 21:32

I have a spiral cutter fitted to my Hammer and it's great...much, much quieter.
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Robert » 27 Sep 2018, 22:46

Think it was pictures of your Hammer machine that started me thinking.

Has anyone heard of itech?
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Rod » 27 Sep 2018, 23:52

Didn’t someone on here buy one of their Table Saws?

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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby RogerS » 28 Sep 2018, 03:32

Rod wrote:Didn’t someone on here buy one of their Table Saws?

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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby justaskin » 28 Sep 2018, 07:15

Remarkably similar to the AXI spiral job. Somewhat cheaper at £1400 now. Never the less with the spiral blades it is less noisy just wait til you have to work some wild grain timber like yew, this tell you it was worth the extra.

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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby RogerS » 28 Sep 2018, 07:28

justaskin wrote:.....just wait til you have to work some wild grain timber like yew, this tell you it was worth the extra.

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I never had that problem. But then I cheated ! It's called "planing/thickessing by drum sander"
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Andyp » 28 Sep 2018, 08:36

How on earth do you sharpen a spiral cutter blade?
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Rod » 28 Sep 2018, 08:37

Buy new inserts I should think.

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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby wallace » 28 Sep 2018, 08:48

Andyp wrote:How on earth do you sharpen a spiral cutter blade?


You just rotate each cutter, My local timber supplier has one and you can hold a conversation next to it
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Malc2098 » 28 Sep 2018, 13:00

I have bought iTech table saw. It is functional and much better than my previous Record, but needs a little fettling.

The supplier did not score highly for me.
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Robert » 13 Sep 2020, 14:17

Doesn't take me long to make up my mind does it? Started this thread 2 years ago.

Just clicked buy on a Axminster Trade AT260SPT Spiral Planer Thicknesser along with a mobile base for a few coppers short of 2k. Out of stock with a 3 week lead time according to the site but wouldn't surprise me if it was longer.

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The Itech is cheaper but is also out of stock and quotes 40+ days.

Just blunted the blades on my P/T on this hard and heavy probably Afzelia flooring I bought on ebay recently. I'll fit new blades and leave it ready to sell. It did cut OK for a reasonable time so carbide insert cutters should have no trouble. That was yesterday and no Ill effects on me from working with the wood so definitely not Iroko - or it doesn't effect me.
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Woodbloke » 13 Sep 2020, 17:24

When these things first came out, I was working at Ax in the office upstairs and Keith Thompson (just retired) sauntered over with a lump of freshly planed wood and asked...''what do think of that then Rob?'' to which I replied ''I know what that is Keith, it's a bit of wood'' :lol:

The wood is question though, had just been put through the first of the spiral cutter blocks that Ax had just got hold of and the finish was superlative. I was suitably impressed - Rob
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby 9fingers » 13 Sep 2020, 17:55

Every now and then I wonder about getting the conversion kit for my Delta four post thicknesser but get very good results from conventional knives and I tend to consign difficult grained wood to the thickness sander so it might be better to convert the Jet Planer?
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure....

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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Woodbloke » 17 Sep 2020, 11:30

9fingers wrote:I used to be indecisive but now I'm not so sure....

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A bit of 'Wavy Mavy' from Open All Hours going on here Bob? :lol: :lol: - Rob
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Robert » 17 Sep 2020, 13:43

On the Axminster site it has gone from out of stock expected to be available in 3 weeks (as when I ordered) to expected in 1 week so maybe I might get it sooner. No delivery date from Ax yet.

Out of curiosity I was looking at the price of the carbide insert cutters. Axminster are about £60 odd for 10 and where I've been buying planer blades (woodford woodturnings?) they are £30 odd for 10.

Big difference but is there a big difference in quality? Hopefully be a very long time until i need to find out.
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Mike G » 17 Sep 2020, 13:57

Priced by the ten, but presumably you need dozens of the things when the time comes.
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Woodbloke » 17 Sep 2020, 14:18

Mike G wrote:Priced by the ten, but presumably you need dozens of the things when the time comes.

The Ax blurb mentions that 44 cutters are arranged over four rows - Rob
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby 9fingers » 17 Sep 2020, 15:09

You should be able to get inserts much cheaper than that shopping around.
I pay less than half that for smaller quatities for my metalwork machining.

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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby Robert » 17 Sep 2020, 15:39

9fingers wrote:You should be able to get inserts much cheaper than that shopping around.
I pay less than half that for smaller quatities for my metalwork machining.

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I did look at the time but couldn't see any rounded square ones anywhere just straight sided that are not compatible. I was probably looking in the wrong place and I don't have a part number to search for.
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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby 9fingers » 17 Sep 2020, 15:49

Robert wrote:
9fingers wrote:You should be able to get inserts much cheaper than that shopping around.
I pay less than half that for smaller quatities for my metalwork machining.

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I did look at the time but couldn't see any rounded square ones anywhere just straight sided that are not compatible. I was probably looking in the wrong place and I don't have a part number to search for.


They will be somebodys standard size, shape and carbide grade. Axi would not have commissioned a custom type. Once you have the oem specification, then there will likely be clones out there.
Relative to metal turning/milling, wood planing will not require a high performance carbide grade.

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Re: spiral cutter planer/thicknesser

Postby RogerS » 17 Sep 2020, 16:05

Andyp wrote:How on earth do you sharpen a spiral cutter blade?


As Wallace says.... there are four sides to a blade....each blade being about 20mm square. A lot of them !

I'm still on 'edge 1' of the original blades.
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