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Triton TWSS10 Whetstone all rund sharpening?

Postby Stoatally » 23 Mar 2017, 13:07

Im looking for an all round sharpening system - turning tools, chisels, planes, knives etc. The triton is £180 so half the price of the ProEdge set up, and has jigs available for turning etc.

Is it any good? Is there a better alternative or should I just shell out for the proedge?
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Re: Triton TWSS10 Whetstone all rund sharpening?

Postby Andyp » 23 Mar 2017, 13:36

Matt, I never feel sufficiently experienced to pass comments on this sort of thing especially as I have never owned nor used a wet stone grinder.
I have always been very satisfied with my ability to sharpen square edge tools with an eclipse jig, diamond stone and scary sharp (wet and dry stuck to a glass sheet).

When I decided to get into turning I realised that I would need an accurate method of putting a consistent edge on a curved surface. The Proedge is essentially a small version of a linisher which is what I believe Sorby use to sharpen their tools in the factory.
Is is a breeze to set up, adjust for different angles and change grits and it does not need truing like a stone wheel. I believe it may have limitations in achieving certain specialist "long grinds" but so far I have not found the need.

I have never wanted a wet stone grinder. I can sometimes spend days or weeks without setting foot in the workshop and the thought of having to take water into the shop and then not leave the stone sitting in water for lengthy periods puts me off. As the need for truing periodically

Rob (woodbloke) was an early advocate of the Proedge but I believe he recently sold it. It would be interesting to understand why.

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Re: Triton TWSS10 Whetstone all rund sharpening?

Postby DaveL » 23 Mar 2017, 16:39

I have the Jet wet stone grinder, works a treat. I had it long before getting into turning, I use it for the primary bevels on plane irons and chisel. I use the Veritas mark 2 honing guide for the secondary bevel and micro bevel.
Having got into turning it was the obvious way to go for the tools. What I would say is the Tormek jigs are much better that the Jet ones and I guess the same could will be true for the Triton ones. I have quite a collection of jigs and while they have cost a lot, they were mainly bought on eBay, as the need arose over a number of years.
I found the water is not to much of a problem, I have a 5 litre container that I top up from the tumble dryer when it's used to stop lime scale forming in the water tray. I attach a large steel washer in the bottom of the water tray using a rare earth magnet, this collects the metal removed from the tools, helping to keep the stone cleaner. At the end of a grinding session I take the tray off the machine and rinse it out.
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Re: Triton TWSS10 Whetstone all rund sharpening?

Postby Rod » 23 Mar 2017, 18:34

I've used a Tormek for many years but always empty the water after use.
For removal of a fair bit of metal I use a cheapo Clarke grinder with a Norton 3x wheel

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Re: Triton TWSS10 Whetstone all rund sharpening?

Postby chataigner » 23 Mar 2017, 19:53

I dont have the Triton, but I do have an unknown make wet grinder that looks a lot like it. It is used only for heavy metal removal, all real sharpening is done on glass with "scary sharp" abrasive films and a Richard Kell jig. The grinder works well and the water is not that much of an issue. During most of the year I simply leave water in the tray, emptying and refilling it after any heavy use to keep it reasonably clean. In the worst of the winter I empty it and only add water if I need to use it, but the shop being unheated, I dont use it much in really cold weather.

Truing the wheel is absolutely essential and a good jig is the only way to do it. My set up was inherited from my sadly deceased brother in law and came without a jig. I improvised for a while but was not satisfied with the results and ended up making a jig in wood - it's clumsy because the wood needs to be quite big to be rigid enough but works fine.

As for general remarks about Triton, I have a big router of theirs and also a VERY big portable circular saw and both are excellent (though it must be said that the blade that came with the saw was rubbish).
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Re: Triton TWSS10 Whetstone all rund sharpening?

Postby Woodbloke » 10 Apr 2017, 18:19

Andyp wrote:
Rob (woodbloke) was an early advocate of the Proedge but I believe he recently sold it. It would be interesting to understand why.

HTH

Andy, the ProEdge is an all Brit machine that's built like a Chieftan tank and it's pretty good for turning tools but it completely useless for grinding an edge on chisels and plane blades. The jigs are crude in the extreme and nowhere near accurate enough; in addition the thought of expensive carbon steel getting a tad warmish on the belt was enough to put me off. The Tormek is great for all sorts of steel (it's not slow at all) and there's no need to worry about leaving the stone immersed in the water for long periods...it evaporates in about 48hrs :D - Rob
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