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CamVac capacitor

Postby Halo Jones » 25 Sep 2017, 10:34

So I was prepping a few oak boards on the planer thicknesser and I got a bit carried away with myself and may have forgotten to check how full the bin on the CamVac was :oops: . I heard a little "pop" and noticed that shavings were building up in the extraction hose. Realising what I had done, switched everything off and checked the bin which which a little over-full.... Luckily I only toasted one of the motors :(

I have ordered a new numatic motor which I know will fit fine but I also melted the capacitor. It is a type I have never seen before. Can anyone help me source this as I am sure Record Power will add a healthy mark up!
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Re: CamVac capacitor

Postby Doug » 25 Sep 2017, 11:10

Can’t answer your question but this might help identifying it http://m.wikihow.com/Read-a-Capacitor
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Re: CamVac capacitor

Postby 9fingers » 25 Sep 2017, 11:21

It looks like a delta suppression capacitor. Does it have a lead to each supply line and a third connection to ground?

If so, then it is not critical and need not be replaced as it will not affect the running of the machine.

If you really want one then you are quite correct not to go for a manufacturers spare part on grounds of cost. About the cheapest I found on a quick looksee was
https://www.amazon.co.uk/DELTA-SUPPRESS ... B008PD906Y

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Re: CamVac capacitor

Postby Halo Jones » 25 Sep 2017, 11:35

Thanks Doug / Bob,

It is as you described Bob. If it is not critical I will try without it. Just out of curiosity, if it isn't critical what is it there for?

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Re: CamVac capacitor

Postby Halo Jones » 25 Sep 2017, 11:53

Looking again:

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The two black wires at the top of the picture were connected to the motor at one end of the capacitor. The wires at the other end of the capacitor go through to the switch.

I think this is more like the thing I would need if I replaced it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Miflex-X-1-Y2 ... Swu4BViqCJ
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Re: CamVac capacitor

Postby 9fingers » 25 Sep 2017, 11:57

Halo Jones wrote:Thanks Doug / Bob,

It is as you described Bob. If it is not critical I will try without it. Just out of curiosity, if it isn't critical what is it there for?

H.


It helps suppress the radio frequency interference that would be experienced by someone using a medium/long wave radio nearby.
1. who uses medium/long wave these days
2. how can they hear a radio over the racket that a brush motor makes anyway
3. Not sure about this one, but the suppression of RFI could well be the subject of a EU directive and prior to that it was just good practice.

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Re: CamVac capacitor

Postby 9fingers » 25 Sep 2017, 12:00

Halo Jones wrote:Looking again:

20170923_113241.jpg


The two black wires at the top of the picture were connected to the motor at one end of the capacitor. The wires at the other end of the capacitor go through to the switch.

I think this is more like the thing I would need if I replaced it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Miflex-X-1-Y2 ... Swu4BViqCJ



Yes, I did not realise it was a double ender from your first photos.

Manufacturers like then as the wires come included and it cheapens their assembly costs. Electrically the same animal - see the diagram on the side and up to you if you replace it.

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