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To thien or not to thien

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To thien or not to thien

Postby Bucks woodshop » 28 Jul 2018, 16:06

Hi all

So ive been ruminating on my dust extraction plans which involves lots of reading including bill pentz website and youtube videos

I have most of it settled i have a 50mm cyclone for the shop vac which will extract the mitre saw and table saw overhead collection plus 1 spare porr for clean up

Then i have my 100mm extractor with 100mm pipework to table saw and P/T plus floor sweep and extraction in the mitre saw collection box

What im struggling with is the cyclone for the 100mm nobody makes one at a reasonable price so i looked to make my own but seems a faf

Then i spotted the thien baffle seems simpler to construct and more forgiving

Anyone had an experience of these do they work as well as a cyclone ?

Tia

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Re: To thien or not to thien

Postby Doug » 28 Jul 2018, 16:57

I’ve had both cyclone & Thien & found the cyclone to be better, I made a second cyclone here viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3142

Larger 4”cyclones cones come up on eBay so worth searching for.
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Re: To thien or not to thien

Postby Bucks woodshop » 28 Jul 2018, 22:08

So even more issues now i set up the cyclone and ran a test im only getting 50% capture of the dust and chips

Seals are good as if i cover the end the bucket sucks in instantly

Not sure what else to check on it kust does not seem to be as efficient as everyone claims



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Re: To thien or not to thien

Postby Robert » 28 Jul 2018, 22:36

I made a Thien separator some years back and I'm still using it. It is made for drain pipe size pipe (63mm I think).

It works well and I can empty it half a dozen times before there will be 1/4" or less of fine dust in the extractor and the filter needs a shake. it is only the finest of dust that gets through.

Back when the forum was just woodhaven not woodhaven2 I made a video of it. No real 'making of' just a couple of parts photos but you can see the design pretty clearly during the demo.

[youtube]8CHtPKeCvD4[/youtube]

Apologies for the music in the background. I wouldn't add that now if I was doing another video :)

I do want a larger version for 100mm tube. The shop vac in the video is now replaced and if I ever get round to it the drum from that will be the scrap bin under a new separator.
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Re: To thien or not to thien

Postby will1983 » 30 Jul 2018, 10:13

Buck,

Have a look over on UKW, I built one last year and use it almost daily. It's pretty good, I get very little blow by and the unit is mobile which is something you can't really do with a large cyclone.

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/pos ... n#p1183185
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