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wadkin PK restoration

Postby wallace » 21 Sep 2018, 18:03

Its been a whole 5 minutes since I finished the morticer but I am determined to finish all my project machines. I wasn't going to do a wip but thought everyone likes a machine brought back from the dead. I bought this PK about 3 years ago, it was missing some major items like its fence and crown guard arm.
The first problem was getting into the workshop, the pallet it was on was rotten so I had to drag it onto my pump truck.

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At least I had the good sense to smear the top in waxoyle and cover it with a plastic sheet. It looks rough but it should come good

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The top was rusty when I got it and I think the rust and the waxoyle has protected the top. When I gave it a shave it was really nice underneath.

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Surprisingly the tilt still worked well

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I've done a few PK's and never come across this which limits the travel of the blade height

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This is the casting that holds the motor, This pic is straight off the machine and has not been touched. Its been sat under an apple tree for over 3 years with just a sheet over the table.

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A bit of a clean

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No wonder their was a bit slop I'm sure thats supposed to be a tapered pin, funnily I've had 3 pk's with this pin broken.

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I've been using liquid metal for filling but found this at my paint dealer for £14

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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby StevieB » 21 Sep 2018, 21:00

Don't often comment but I love reading these threads and especially seeing the pics - many thanks for posting them! I would love to do what you do, but life (and too small a house/grounds!) preclude me ever doing so.

How did you learn to take these things apart and clean them up - just trial and error or do you have an engineering/metalworking background?
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby wallace » 22 Sep 2018, 09:45

Thanks Stevie, I was always curious as a kid and would dismantle my toys. My first car was an old MG which I restored at 19, I have no formal training and just make it up as I go along. Once you've done a couple of wadkins you realise there all pretty similar in construction and where there might be a hidden pin.
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby Andyp » 22 Sep 2018, 10:22

i wasn't aware the morticer was finished.

I also enjoy watching this just as much as enjoy the car resto programmes on TV. I too used to take my toys apart but could never get them back together again. :)
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby Robert » 22 Sep 2018, 12:14

Andyp wrote:i wasn't aware the morticer was finished.


I was going to post something similar :)

It kind of looked finished in the last photos but there was no 'and here it is' ending.

Anyway... glad the entertainment continues :)
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby Malc2098 » 22 Sep 2018, 17:36

Love it!
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby wallace » 23 Sep 2018, 18:54

The morticer got finished and then this

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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby Malc2098 » 23 Sep 2018, 19:19

Oh dear. Any damage?
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby MattS » 23 Sep 2018, 19:35

Oh no that must have been awful watching it fall! Hope it survived?!

Is a big table saw like this still practical to use compared to modern versions with sliding tables and tracks etc?
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby DaveL » 23 Sep 2018, 19:48

That looks like the thing tipped over from the tail lift of a truck, were you moving it or was the guy collecting it? I hope that nothing is damaged in the fall.
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby Rod » 23 Sep 2018, 20:21

Oh dear, that doesn’t look good, hope it was ok

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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby Robert » 23 Sep 2018, 22:44

Hope it was a miraculous fall and no cast iron broke..but I'd guess that was unlikely.

Reminds me of loading delivery lorries with items we spent ages making and worrying about things like that happening. I feel your pain.

No mention of injuries so that is something that was positive in a bad situation.
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby wallace » 23 Sep 2018, 23:25

It was getting collected by a courier, He was half on the path and road. I told him it would be easier if he pulled onto the path properly. He says it will be fine. I could tell as soon as it started to go their was nothing to stop it so just stepped back. The driver wanted to tie a strap around the top and drag it upright. I got him to use his tail lift to upright it. As far as I can tell it just had cosmetic damage but the guy is going to give it a good look over.
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby Rod » 24 Sep 2018, 09:09

Would it be insured?

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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby wallace » 24 Sep 2018, 22:13

Yes I always get extra insurance to cover a machine that's leaving
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby wallace » 30 Sep 2018, 17:08

More done, to remove he handle from the handwheel is pretty easy, just drill the peened over end a bit and knock it out.

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The handles look a bit rough but since they are made from horn they clean up really easy. Stick the stub in a drill, hold some sandpaper and spin it in your hand, go through the grits and finish with t-cut

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The handwheels are in great shape and just needed putting in the lathe and used grey then red scotchbrite before polishing.

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This machine looked in bad order but the more I dig into its obvious it was well cared for.

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I tried gun bluing for blackening some bolt heads

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And just a little bling

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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby Malc2098 » 30 Sep 2018, 17:58

I don't know what it is about polished hand-wheels. They look so tactile!

I just love 'em.
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby Rod » 30 Sep 2018, 19:56

Great work

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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby wallace » 01 Oct 2018, 17:19

Rusty bits wire wheeled and blackened

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Now onto the slider, one of those hammer screwdrivers is invaluble for stuff like this.

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Easier to clean stuff in situ

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The slider has hardened steel inserts for where the bearings run

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Anoher indication that this machine has had an easy life is hole in the centre, this is where the table release locks the slider. generally the run up to the hole has a groove worn into it.

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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby Robert » 01 Oct 2018, 22:08

There's never a lot to say as we watch these small miracles progress but it is enjoyable watching lumps of what could be taken as scrap iron turn into fine engineering again.
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby fiveeyes » 02 Oct 2018, 00:34

Lovely, wallace,, do be careful when bashing that impact driver...DAMHIKT :o
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby wallace » 03 Oct 2018, 18:12

Just a tad more, the screws that hold the filler strip for the protractor groove were missing so it had lifted a bit with rust. After initial cleaning of the sliding table there are a few stains but no pits.

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The carriage the sliding table runs on is in good shape but is missing some hard to find bits ie the eccentrics that hold the bearings that the table runs on.

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Someone has changed the bearings at some point originally it would have had open bearings

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I got a big surprize when I went in the house, a parcel from over the pond. Even the dog was excited, well not really, I was stood near the treat drawer.

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There are some very nice people around, I've been searching for the back half of the pk's double mitre for 6 years. I just need to find someone to do the machining.

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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby DaveL » 03 Oct 2018, 19:01

So is that a new casting or old new stock?

The dog looks a bit disappointed with the package contents!
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby wallace » 03 Oct 2018, 21:58

Its a new casting Dave
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Re: wadkin PK restoration

Postby wallace » 14 Oct 2018, 16:48

more done, I'm pleased the motor was ok after spending 4 years outside. Bearings in good shape so just flushed and repacked.

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After much filling and sanding a few coats of primer

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Followed by the usual RAL 7011 enamel

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Theres no reason to paint inside other than it looks good

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This saw was missing its fence, its original fence ended up in canada. I've been looking for a fence for years so in the end I got the fence off a EQ spindle moulder which has the same fine adjuster but it doesnt tilt. I think it should work well and I think the provision to use the EQ's hold downs which go into the top of the fence will be quite usefull.

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