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Mitre saw advice

Postby MY63 » 17 Feb 2019, 18:18

While cutting some scrap to check the angle of the blade the wood was caught by the blade and lifted up out of my hand.
I thought the blade was bent and having moved the 13 sheets of OSB from in front of the cupboard where the spare blade has lived for the last 15 years. I fitted it and found that rather than the blade being bent something else has bent inside the motor.
Clearly I need a new saw, as this is not a planned upgrade I need something in the budget range the current one being a Proline sliding compound mitre saw.

I did notice one at my local timber merchant it was bright red called Einhell or similar I think.

Any advice appreciated
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby Malc2098 » 17 Feb 2019, 21:24

Homebase Ozito £65

Screwfix Tita £49.99

Screwfis Evolution £59.99

But I think they are all fixed, not compound.

Screwfix Evoultion CSMS £99.99

I suspect that might be about the best entry level.

The Einhell is at Toolstation at about £134.98.

Not teaching Grandmother to suck eggs, but have you checked the blade, removed it and replaced then turned the blade by hand with the power off and plug removed. I had a wobbly blade on an old table saw once, down to me not fitting it correctly.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby Moteyi » 17 Feb 2019, 21:50

If you don't' need a sliding mitre saw I'd look at the Metabo KS 216. Metabo are a good reliable brand - I have an older Metabo SCMS that I use on site. If you go for a cheap one that appears to do eveything then it will likely be poor quality and you will struggle to get repeatable accurate cuts.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby MY63 » 17 Feb 2019, 22:25

Thanks MalcolmMy first thought was I had bent the blade it felt like it was touching something inside as I rotated it by hand (unplugged).
As I still had the replacement blade it came with and I only had to move 13 full sheets of OSB to get to it it took me some time. But I did change the blade and it still felt notchy as I turned it. I suspect that it maybe the bearing or the shaft that is damaged.
I think this saw is at least 15 years old so a replacement maybe the best solution.

I was thinking under £100 but found this

https://www.homebase.co.uk/bosch-pcm-8- ... aw_p411015

I have a bench sander made by this company

https://www.diy.com/departments/scheppa ... 039_BQ.prd

Being honest hey both have some unfortunate reviews.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby Malc2098 » 18 Feb 2019, 00:06

Michael, I can't comment on those models, but there were times during my build when I asked myself if I just needed a tool or machine for the build only, or if I wanted to keep them for work after the build.

If it was for the build only, I'd look at the views for an entry level and only expect to work it for the length of the build and write the cost off into the build budget.

If I wanted it to last longer for me, then I would look at the reviews up the scale a bit.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby MY63 » 18 Feb 2019, 11:06

Moteyi wrote:If you don't' need a sliding mitre saw I'd look at the Metabo KS 216. Metabo are a good reliable brand - I have an older Metabo SCMS that I use on site. If you go for a cheap one that appears to do eveything then it will likely be poor quality and you will struggle to get repeatable accurate cuts.


Thanks I am more used to using the sliding type

Good advice Malcolm I think the one I have was a B and Q own brand at the time I bought it. I do have some future projects more decking and a utility conversion for the garage. My use would be best described as yearly rather than monthly or weekly use.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby mynamehere » 19 Feb 2019, 14:54

I Had a similar issue with a Pingtek saw where the blade developed a serious wobble, after changing the blade the problem stayed the same.
On closer inspection I noticed that the old blade must have slipped on the shaft and pushed up a bit of material on the inner washer, the washer was scored with a nodule of steel sitting proud at the end of the scoring mark (probably cause it's a soft material)
After some vigorous flattening of the washer and cleaning the blade all was good again!

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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby MY63 » 19 Feb 2019, 20:29

Thanks for that I may well take another look once my workshop is finished.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby MY63 » 15 Jun 2019, 09:12

I have had some time over the last 10 days as my right hand is causing some issues with working on my big projects. I have stripped down the old mitre saw and found that the main shaft was bent so it has gone for scrap.
As I like the Makita track saw my first thought was I would buy a Makita CMS. So off I went to look at them in Axminster only to find they have a complex trigger mechanism that appears to be made for right handed use it is to difficult for my right hand to operate.
So I am back to the drawing board the Axminster staff were keen to show me the Bosch GCM 8 SJL 216mm

Is this my best option?
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby Malc2098 » 15 Jun 2019, 10:08

The only thing I could make out on Bosch's video was that the handle can be operated right or left handed.

It looks like the middle, ring and little fingers operate the lock release trigger, and the index finger operates the motor trigger. Which is the same as my Kapex, which occasionally I have to use left handed.


EdiT!!! Course it's not like my Kapex. The Kapex needs you to push the lock release trigger with your palm on top of the handle and use any/all your fingers to operate to motor trigger. Duh! Apologies for confusion.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby MY63 » 15 Jun 2019, 13:41

Thanks Malcolm I was never going to buy a Kapex saw so there was no confusion :)
Although a friend advised me to look at the Evolution saw but I think the Bosch is still my preferred option.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby Doug » 15 Jun 2019, 14:05

If your looking at a 216mm size blade machine I bought a Metabo last year, this guy reviews it,

[youtube]QZB9juG7rLM[/youtube]

It’s the cordless option but they do a mains powered one, I’ve found it very good, incredibly powerful with 8ah batteries & easy to use left handed
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby MY63 » 15 Jun 2019, 18:16

Thanks Doug it looks good I am trying to find a local supplier so I can see it before I buy it.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby MY63 » 22 Jun 2019, 18:33

So after some messing about I took a look at the Metabo sliding mitre saw recommended by Doug it arrived yesterday.
The guard release that caused me issues with other saws is very simple to operate especially with my damaged right hand.
It is a German company but the saw is made in China I was a lttle concerned about that but Doug told me the build quality was good.
Everything was good out of the box as you can see from the pictures everything that needed to be square was spot on

Image2019-06-22_02-52-12 by my0771, on Flickr

Image2019-06-22_02-46-43 by my0771, on Flickr

Image2019-06-22_02-46-31 by my0771, on Flickr

Image2019-06-22_02-46-14 by my0771, on Flickr

I have to say I am well impressed for the price it is excellent.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby Doug » 23 Jun 2019, 07:39

Hope it gives you years of trouble free use Michael.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby Malc2098 » 23 Jun 2019, 11:10

Nice one, Michael!
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby TrimTheKing » 23 Jun 2019, 11:49

Good stuff.

How’s the stock blade?
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby MY63 » 23 Jun 2019, 19:00

All of my test cuts had a good finish. The saw is smooth as it moves along the rails with no noticeable play.
It has a laser and an LED light which are both mains powered so there is no battery to run down or leak.
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby Malc2098 » 23 Jun 2019, 19:04

Sounds good. Are you managing it OK?
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby MY63 » 23 Jun 2019, 20:19

Yes Malcolm so far so good the guard release is operated by the side of the index finger where it joins the plalm it could have been designed for me to use the main switch or trigger is right under the fingers when you grip the handle. Which is great because only two of my fingers on my right hand are working at the moment.
It does not have soft start or any type of brake but my last saw did not have them either I think I have been spoilt by the Makita plunge saw with its fancy gadgets :D :D
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Re: Mitre saw advice

Postby Malc2098 » 23 Jun 2019, 20:55

Great! Now get making stuff!
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