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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Phil » 30 Mar 2018, 14:16

Rod wrote:I was quite surprised with all that spraying, that he didn’t cover the lathe bed etc??

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I had similar thoughts.

When I oiled anything on the lathe, everything around the lathe got covered.
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Woodster » 30 Mar 2018, 17:19

Having got stain I couldn’t remove on a previous Lathe, the first thing I did with my current lathe was to give it a coat of Renaissance wax. This includes the lathe bed, and contrary to what you may think doesn’t stop the Banjo or Tailstock from locking up. It does however make them slide smoothly when required.
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby mabazza ritchie » 30 Mar 2018, 21:30

Woodster wrote:Having got stain I couldn’t remove on a previous Lathe, the first thing I did with my current lathe was to give it a coat of Renaissance wax. This includes the lathe bed, and contrary to what you may think doesn’t stop the Banjo or Tailstock from locking up. It does however make them slide smoothly when required.


When i saw his lathe the first thing I thought was that I definately don't like my tools being a mess let alone a new lathe. So, i think I will follow your lead with the Renaissance wax. Would machine was from Ax do the same job?
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Woodster » 30 Mar 2018, 22:14

mabazza ritchie wrote:
I think I will follow your lead with the Renaissance wax. Would machine wax from Ax do the same job?


I’m sure the Axminster machine wax will be fine. It’s what I’d use if I didn’t already have the Renaissance wax. Just wipe on then buff the surface a little.
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Phil » 31 Mar 2018, 07:08

Woodster wrote:
mabazza ritchie wrote:
I think I will follow your lead with the Renaissance wax. Would machine wax from Ax do the same job?


I’m sure the Axminster machine wax will be fine. It’s what I’d use if I didn’t already have the Renaissance wax. Just wipe on then buff the surface a little.




The Renaissance wax sounds a great idea.
That is unitil I looked where I could get it locally.
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby DaveL » 31 Mar 2018, 08:52

Chestnut also do a microcrystalline wax that over here is cheaper than Renaissance wax.
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Dalboy » 31 Mar 2018, 11:38

For machine protection, I use Chestnut Woodwax22. It produces a protective layer as well as help to allow things to slide better.
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Rod » 31 Mar 2018, 12:57

Any soft paste wax will work as long as it’s silicon free

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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Woodster » 31 Mar 2018, 15:01

Rod wrote:Any soft paste wax will work as long as it’s silicon free

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Out of interest Rod, what’s the problem with silicon wax?
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Rod » 31 Mar 2018, 15:57

You don’t want to contaminate wood with silicone polishes as it prevents other finishes penetrating and can leave a fish eye appearance.

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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Phil » 31 Mar 2018, 16:11

Rod wrote:You don’t want to contaminate wood with silicone polishes as it prevents other finishes penetrating and can leave a fish eye appearance.

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Yes agree, but this is for the lathe metal parts, so should silicone still be an issue?


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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Rod » 31 Mar 2018, 16:15

It may get on your wood accidentally so best to keep those polishes out of the shop.
Plenty of waxes available without silicones, you can even make your own out of beeswax and turps.

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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Dalboy » 31 Mar 2018, 16:25

Rod wrote:Any soft paste wax will work as long as it’s silicon free

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Woodwax22 is silicon free as we had this discussion on another site Terry from Chestnut confirmed that
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Woodster » 31 Mar 2018, 17:53

Rod wrote:You don’t want to contaminate wood with silicone polishes as it prevents other finishes penetrating and can leave a fish eye appearance.

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Thanks for that Rod, worth knowing. ;)
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby mabazza ritchie » 06 Apr 2018, 18:12

Evening folks,

Rather excitedly I took delivery of my new lathe today. It took a lot of effort to get the pallet truck across my gravel driveway, although leap-frogging some chipboard made it marginally easier. I will update once I have it all together and set up. It is covered in oil which I intend to clean off. Would I be best to use white spirit to do so?

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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Woodster » 06 Apr 2018, 18:32

Exciting times! :D Not sure about the white spirit. I tend to use methylated spirit or isopropyl to degrease stuff.
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Rod » 06 Apr 2018, 18:34

I’ve never had the pleasure of cleaning a brand new lathe but I’m sure white spirit would do the trick.
Don’t forget the photos

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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby mabazza ritchie » 06 Apr 2018, 19:31

I have meths so will use that just to be safe. I am a bit confused as I thought the lathe was 13amp 230v. However, it appears to be 3~230v 50hz 1.5kw it has what I think is a European two pin plug on it and needs a 3 Pin Uk plug adapter connected to a 16amp isolator. I have the 16amp but it has the round blue connector. I guess I need to get an extension with one end being the blue connector for the 16amp and the other end being the 3 Pin Uk plug. Does that sound about right?

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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby 9fingers » 06 Apr 2018, 20:14

" 3~230v 50hz 1.5kw" means it is a 3 phase supply wired as 230v delta.

Get some proper advice before connecting power. If you consider electricity as witchcraft then stay well away from it.

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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby mabazza ritchie » 06 Apr 2018, 20:39

I have been given advice by my neighbour (retired sparky) that I would require what is essentially a 'caravan cable'; 16amp plug on one end to plug into my 16amp fuse in the garage and on the other end a standard 3 pin socket for the machine to be plugged into. I just wanted to check this was 'current advice' given he is retired and no longer a sparky. Will give a local one a call tomorrow and see.
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby 9fingers » 06 Apr 2018, 20:46

If the machine needs a 16 amp supply then simply fit a 6 amp plug on the machine.

But you may have overlooked the key point which is if the machine needs 3 phase 230 volt then you cannot run it on your single phase supply.

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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby mabazza ritchie » 06 Apr 2018, 21:01

Ok. When I bought it I was told 13amp 230v supply is sufficient. Here are some photos of the relevant power ratings.
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby 9fingers » 06 Apr 2018, 21:11

The First and third photos confirm that the motor is a 3 phase 230v delta connected.

However, it would appear that the blue box in photo 2 is some form of inverter to synthesise 3 phase power for a single phase supply. The schuko connector shown fitted is a 16 amp one( incidentally with 3 connections) so all you need to do is to fit a UK blue 16amp connector in its place.

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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby mabazza ritchie » 06 Apr 2018, 21:22

Thanks Bob. I was beginning to panic and think I had just spend my hard earned cash on something I couldn't use! Going to go and calm down slightly.
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Re: Start Up Kit

Postby Woodster » 07 Apr 2018, 11:38

Strange, was this bought from a UK supplier? If so shouldn’t it have been fitted with a UK 13 amp plug?
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