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Games & Card Table (complete)

Postby Jimmy Mack » 04 Sep 2019, 22:28

Hello all,

Not posted for a while, got a little... hmmmpfh... with the Furniture Making tbh... Though after being on Dad duty most of the summer and an ice cream dent in the bank account... I'm now _very_ ready to get back to bashing in the shed - better for the mind too!

First up is a Card Table... there's a loose plan with a few unknowns. Plenty of veneers, curvy bits and some marquetry to the removable top.

I've been self-learning Fusion 360 too... Here's a sculptural 3D model of the piece

https://a360.co/2HFIHB1

... Viewable in a browser via the link

All being well, I'll share some pictures along the way - should be fun and (hopefully) entertaining.

Cheers,

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Woodster » 04 Sep 2019, 22:35

Looks good. I think I’d like to see the whole of each playing card rather than just half though.
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Re: Octo - card table

Postby RogerM » 04 Sep 2019, 22:41

Interesting project. Looking forward to this one!

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Jimmy Mack » 04 Sep 2019, 22:51

RogerM wrote:Interesting project. Looking forward to this one!

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Good to have your expertise in the room Roger, especially after your fab dining table

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Jimmy Mack » 04 Sep 2019, 22:53

Woodster wrote:Looks good. I think I’d like to see the whole of each playing card rather than just half though.
Now that would be a marquetry challenge!

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby RogerM » 05 Sep 2019, 07:42

Jimmy Mack wrote:
Woodster wrote:Looks good. I think I’d like to see the whole of each playing card rather than just half though.
Now that would be a marquetry challenge!

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Looking at your previous work, Jim, you've never struck me as someone to be put off by a challenge. Design what you want and only then find a way to build it!

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Mike G » 05 Sep 2019, 07:44

HI Jim........nice to see you back. I'm looking forward to watching this one.
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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Malc2098 » 05 Sep 2019, 09:19

Can't wait!
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Re: Octo - card table

Postby 9fingers » 05 Sep 2019, 09:49

Welcome back

Should be an Ace project! :lol:

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Andyp » 05 Sep 2019, 10:07

I like the sense of mystery, even mischief, of having partial cards showing.
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Re: Octo - card table

Postby TrimTheKing » 05 Sep 2019, 10:08

Woodster wrote:Looks good. I think I’d like to see the whole of each playing card rather than just half though.


I'm going to go against this and say I think the chopped cards gives it a real artistic flair that showing the whole cards wouldn't give. I REALLY like the look of the design on the left with the chopped cards. :eusa-clap:
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Re: Octo - card table

Postby will1983 » 05 Sep 2019, 11:22

TrimTheKing wrote:
Woodster wrote:Looks good. I think I’d like to see the whole of each playing card rather than just half though.


I'm going to go against this and say I think the chopped cards gives it a real artistic flair that showing the whole cards wouldn't give. I REALLY like the look of the design on the left with the chopped cards. :eusa-clap:


Completely agree, I really like it as you have it now too.

I have no idea how much veneering and marquetry experience you have already but that looks to be a good challenge.
Maybe have a watch of one of Matt Cremona's recent videos where he and some other bloke showed how to create a radial veneer. I haven't done anything like that before (and likely wont) so it was interesting to see how the process is carried out.

Good luck and I'm looking forward to seeing this progress.

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Woodbloke » 05 Sep 2019, 14:17

I like the look of this one as well but like Mark I'll go against the grain and mention that I don't like the cards at all; seems to make the whole thing overly fussy and there's enough contrasts as it is in the design - Rob
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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Woodster » 05 Sep 2019, 18:38

I think just the hearts, clubs etc may look good on their own without the “card”. Provided they’re not too big they could add a nice detail.
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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Mike G » 05 Sep 2019, 20:10

Woodbloke wrote:I like the look of this one as well but like Mark I'll go against the grain and mention that I don't like the cards at all; seems to make the whole thing overly fussy and there's enough contrasts as it is in the design - Rob


Rob and I seldom agree on design, but I agree with him on this. I think. Having said that, computer drawings can sometimes over-emphasise contrast, and a relatively muted version of the design might just in reality be great. I guess we'll find out in due course.
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Re: Octo - card table

Postby StevieB » 06 Sep 2019, 07:23

From your image the top comes off when in use, so the suits on the cover are merely for when the table is a table. You could always play with just that image - making the suits smaller, altering their position etc until you get a design you are happy with. If this is for you then design is personal preference, and as you are seeing - there are many alternative views on design!

Failing that just make multiple tops :lol:
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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Jimmy Mack » 06 Sep 2019, 13:23

Eeeee...looks like I've gone 'Marmite' again ... 'Art' creating conversation ... so far so good ;)

A little background on the design:

The customer was keen to have some marquetry on the top, as previous marquetry designs had got me the call.

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Walnut inlays on a lawn of Qtr'd Sycamore
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Chris' Banana on C.C. Sycamore
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TBH the previous marquetry work (from quite some time ago) was a tongue-in-cheek project
and part of 'Occasional Taboos', a solo / speculative 'cat-walk' exhibition, so I felt a little uncomfortable about chucking it in for the sake of marquetry ( I appreciate (some) but I'm not really a fan ), especially knowing I'd have to play it reasonably safe.

As part of the brief, when not 'in-play' the table is required to sit comfortably in it's formal setting and occasionally used as a place for light business work - but probably mainly with a scratchy ceramic parked in the middle :eusa-naughty:

The customer was quite specific on the octagonal shape and 'Play layout' with chip cups (it's a Bridge thing), They also wanted a pedestal design of which I presented some classic / modern designs...Mr & Mrs Customer are quite 'chaulk 'n cheese' / traditional Vs. contemporary here when it comes to design which can be a bit of a tightrope walk to the destination; hopefully this comes across in the final design.

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No.'s 3&5 were leaders here, though I worked up the legs as I didn't want to be caught out with that spring/ boing business I had with the previous pedestal table if you remember!? :eusa-doh:

http://www.thewoodhaven2.co.uk/viewtopi ... stal+table


A couple of top designs were presented ( see below) with a nod to the table's inner function... but without too obvious a reference to the game...so hints and abstraction of the cards/ suits playful but safe/tasteful ( Andy P ). The quartering as a move away from it looking like a big PIE, creating a kind of twist effect to reveal the cards along with the drop shadow ( clean as an inlay rather than shading with 'hot sand' - iykwim) ...hopefully it's making sense, I can ramble and my concentration is awful at the moment

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Thoughts and opinions very welcome (No Jokers!)

Cheers, Jim (1 shed)

Side note similar thing...

The Customer is a fan of that mousey chap, you know the one, they have some beautiful front doors from the Kilburn workshop!

Marquetry was requested for a dressing table commission... spot the mouse?

(extra points if you know who Chris is too)

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Rod » 07 Sep 2019, 10:23

Robert Thompson, mouse is drawer stop?

Chris no idea

Mouse trap is fantastic

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Jimmy Mack » 23 Sep 2019, 18:32

Rod wrote:Robert Thompson, mouse is drawer stop?

Chris no idea

Mouse trap is fantastic

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Almost, I think you got it, though not a 'stop'; it's resting on the inside frame, left hand side....it can move about and is the width of the frame work

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Jimmy Mack » 23 Sep 2019, 19:08

Hope all is well. A little update.


Week 1 : Jim Jnr got bad Croup, spent most of it in Leeds General Infirmary Thankfully better now, wasn't a fun week though.

Week 2: Foot work/ pedestal cruciform base complete; sans morticing for legs

A few pictures of the journey...



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Template work
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Transferred to a more substantial jigImageImageImage

Veneering Burr Oak onto a 2x 18mm Birch Ply substrate.ImageImage

Rebate for Ebony string

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Little pile of failures ImageImageImage

Cutting coopered lippings square off jig

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Missed a few pictures here. Pre glue up, I mitres two sides then rail saw'd the 'X' symmetry line to get a perfect (well, good) meet, thinking I'd be forever on the mitre saw to get them bang on. The segments are Domino'd together.
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Ebony bullseye (in my excitement I forgot to take a few pics.) The hole is a 35 mm forstner...I used a guide bush and appropriate cutter (5mm, in my case) round a 50mm forstner template to cut the ebony plug.
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Final clean up, left square/ hex shaped till the end so there was a good registration to clamp to.
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Round over finished off to edge and part of bottom edge, to give the appearance of a foot and more presence; well that's the plan .... They'll be some screw adjustable feet too, which should (hopefully) emphasise this ImageImage

On with the legs next I think...


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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Mike G » 23 Sep 2019, 19:21

Gorgeous.
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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Coley » 23 Sep 2019, 19:40

Phwoar!!

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Malc2098 » 23 Sep 2019, 20:27

Coley wrote:Phwoar!!

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Rod » 23 Sep 2019, 23:53

Lovely

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Re: Octo - card table

Postby Jonathan » 24 Sep 2019, 07:25

Beautiful!
What mitre saw do you use to get them joints like that!

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