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Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby ScotlandtheDave » 20 Oct 2016, 22:32

Thanks very much Dan, very helpful indeed! Yes I wished I'd made the doors a bit more generous as I originally had the c.1m wide, but forgot to account for door hardware and jambs etc. You live and learn though :)

Your door is looking great though

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Postby Malc2098 » 20 Oct 2016, 23:16

Nice. I'm going to nick most of those tricks! But didn't you nick them from MikeG?!! :)
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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Hully » 27 Oct 2016, 12:47

Hi Dan

Workshop is looking great. Can I ask where you got your Larch feather edge from?

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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Dan0741 » 27 Oct 2016, 17:36

Hully,

http://www.uksleepers.co.uk/

This is one of the names of a group of companies that are all in fact the same company (if that makes sense). I have bought larch feather edge, 40 sleepers and some oak boards from them. I think they are very reasonable and I searched round for a competitive price and they were better than anything in the midlands.

Interestingly, in an effort to save costs I opted for the variable length option, as I had never done any feather edge before and I didn't realise the difference it would make. But they sent it in a batch of all 4.2m so in all it was very good value.

They are linked (part of the same group) to a sawmill at...http://www.brigstocksawmill.co.uk/

Would definitely use again.

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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Dan0741 » 27 Oct 2016, 17:47

Malc2098 wrote:Nice. I'm going to nick most of those tricks! But didn't you nick them from MikeG?!! :)


Malc - I have unashamedly used ideas from Mike and also others on the forum. You cant argue with common sense and bearing in mind my level of knowledge before I started I can safely say that all I have learnt has come from this forum or YouTube. Surprising really isn't it!

If anyone doesn't want their work replicated I would'nt expect them to post.

The only responsibility I feel is that if something didn't go well to say so.

Only so that those that follow don't make the same errors!

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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Malc2098 » 27 Oct 2016, 18:23

You're absolutely right and I wouldn't have been able to get my project off the ground, or rather onto the screen, without all these blokes' experience, knowledge and willingness to share.

Stuff's about to get exciting at Chez Malc with the groundworkers' promise to start on Monday morning!!
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Postby Mike G » 27 Oct 2016, 20:37

Dan0741 wrote:.......If anyone doesn't want their work replicated I would'nt expect them to post......


Exactly. The main reason I post is so that others can copy.

And to keep my family up to date with what's happening ;).
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Postby Malc2098 » 27 Oct 2016, 21:05

:eusa-clap:
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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Hully » 28 Oct 2016, 10:17

Dan0741 wrote:Hully,

http://www.uksleepers.co.uk/

This is one of the names of a group of companies that are all in fact the same company (if that makes sense). I have bought larch feather edge, 40 sleepers and some oak boards from them. I think they are very reasonable and I searched round for a competitive price and they were better than anything in the midlands.

Interestingly, in an effort to save costs I opted for the variable length option, as I had never done any feather edge before and I didn't realise the difference it would make. But they sent it in a batch of all 4.2m so in all it was very good value.

They are linked (part of the same group) to a sawmill at...http://www.brigstocksawmill.co.uk/

Would definitely use again.

Happy cladding ;)


Great, cheers Dan.
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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Dan0741 » 07 Dec 2016, 23:22

So Gents just a quick one, Im getting round to the interior cladding. I have some old reclaimed pine T+G which I need to jet wash etc, but was wondering about the vapour barrier. The internal wall build looks like this...

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...and I want to clad with the T+G. I have a couple of DPM sheets spare and wondered if I could use this effectively as a rather robust vapour barrier, or will it cause me problems? I was just planning to staple it to the wall and then apply cladding.

Any issues with this?

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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby 9fingers » 07 Dec 2016, 23:30

DPC plastic tends to have no UV resistance so providing none of it can get to see the sun, you should be fine.

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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Mike G » 08 Dec 2016, 08:36

Dan0741 wrote:.......I have a couple of DPM sheets spare and wondered if I could use this effectively as a rather robust vapour barrier, or will it cause me problems? I was just planning to staple it to the wall and then apply cladding.......


None. You have to be careful of service penetrations, but in a workshop with surface mounted wiring and no plumbing this won't be a problem.
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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Dan0741 » 08 Dec 2016, 18:10

Gents - Perfect thank you, will be careful to ensure coverage so UV no issue and as you say electrics will be surface mounted. :D
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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Dan0741 » 21 Dec 2016, 22:30

So today I fitted a window - a new one for me and was surprised how straightforward it was. I have had a temporary one fitted for a while.

This is the jury rigged version...


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this is the aperture...

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And this is the finally fitted window.

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I need to get some foam around it and silicone finish but overall for a first effort I'm quite pleased with it! :D
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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Malc2098 » 21 Dec 2016, 23:15

Loving the black and white zebra effect!! :D
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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Dan0741 » 29 Dec 2016, 22:22

Guys - any thoughts on the internal reclaimed t+g - Its 120mm wide and the guidance is that if its over 100mm wide it requires two fixings per board, im not sure its necessary given its internal and wont have wind load moisture etc to deal with, ive tried both methods to test stability seems unaffected? Sorry about the poor photo quality the light isn't good - the screws have cup washers to assist the grip.

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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby old » 30 Dec 2016, 08:46

The internal cladding looks very dark in color and is it liable to shrink as its reclaimed .Personally i would go for something stable and paint it a light color as i need as much light in the shop as possible .Of course you could stabilize and paint both sides of the t&g if you have it to hand.
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Postby Andyp » 30 Dec 2016, 10:55

That does seem very dark for an internal surface. Will it be painted?

Window looks good.
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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Dan0741 » 30 Dec 2016, 20:29

I know its dark, and wont reflect light well but I like it and plan to have decent lighting. The reclaimed boards are very damp at the mo as I power washed them, it will need to stand inside with dehumidifier/fan heater for a while before installation. Its under a tarp in the garden currently getting the worst of the water off with the wind...

I installed the ply boards that im having at the bottom of the walls today, and the vapour barrier. The dangling strings are so that I know where the studs are now they are hidden.

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Ive thought about this interior cladding and boards combo and think I will quite like it, albeit I know not to everyones taste. Will have to see when the wall is complete. :?
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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Hully » Yesterday, 15:50

Dan0741 wrote:So today I fitted a window - a new one for me and was surprised how straightforward it was. I have had a temporary one fitted for a while.

this is the aperture...

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And this is the finally fitted window.

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I need to get some foam around it and silicone finish but overall for a first effort I'm quite pleased with it! :D


Great looking window Dan. The workshop is looking dangerously close to completion :eusa-dance:

I'm installing a similar window so looking at this with interest. Any lessons learnt you can impart? Is that some self-adhesive flashing I see on the base of the window framing?

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Re: Dans Shed - Large(ish) workshop construction...

Postby Dan0741 » Yesterday, 23:20

Hully - Not sure what stage you are at but it took me quite a bit of faffing to get these windows sorted.

They are all done now except the grey silicone on the outside , the end caps, and the wooden presentational inserts to finish of the framing on the inside.

The advice I would give, that I didn't follow myself...is to plan the finish so that the window is neat and the surrounds are in the right place. I am going to have to Mcguyver the finish but no great drama.

I decided I wanted painted wooden boards surrounding the windows, as I liked the visual effect, but only on the three sides.(Not bottom) so I measured up apertures taking off the thickness of the boards I wanted to install.

I then took off 10mm on each of the two dimensions - vertical and then horizontal so as to leave 5mm gap each side - this is where accurate framing helps!

What you need to clarify if you are ordering the windows is if the window sill dimensions are included or not. Mine came with separate sills but the measurements were catered for.

Im not sure if its the correct method but I screwed the window sill in first, the 'horns' or whatever they are called,took some jiggery pokery but just took my time to make sure it was neat, and all the cuts were within the tolerances that will be covered by sealant.

I used stainless steel 3 inch screws and made sure all the screw holes were dabbed with silicone so that when the screw was screwed home they were sealed.

I then popped the windows on top of the sills and ensured they were seated correctly, this is quite important so as to ensure that they all drain effectively.

I made sure that each screw location had packers between window and aperture so that when screw was pulled tight it didn't twist or bend the window frame. I put in two fixings per side, and the same top and bottom, so 8 in total each window.

Important obviously to ensure level and plumb...and its easy for this to change mid set up so keep checking.

Once installed I applied expanding foam around the window, (after cursing for having previously disposed of the very fine plastic nozzles...) I have since cut this foam neat and will be later be installing a wooden surround/framing to ensure the edges are all covered etc. Quite surprised how stiff the foam makes the window, so worth doing if you have enough gap.

Installing the glass afterwards was straightforward, but be aware that there is an inside and outside face, not exactly sure of the difference, but there must be differences as mine came with stickers all over saying which side was the inside.

Before you foam and install glass make sure the windows open if you have openings, as this is much easier to sort at this stage as you might have stressed the frame, and once the glass is in and they are surrounded by foam this will be a long job to resolve...

Happy window fitting Hully! :D

PS No Flashing - they come wrapped and they are now all stripped of their plastic.
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