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Stair alterations. NOW FINISHED

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Robert » 30 Jul 2016, 11:28

This is going to be a real feature in the house as they already look impressive.

Did you pick up on some existing thing in the house for the design or just set out to create something that stands out?
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby tracerman » 30 Jul 2016, 11:39

Pinch - those newel posts are very nice , cant wait to see the stairs . ( Kirk was right , the stairs are butt-ugly ) .

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 30 Jul 2016, 19:38

Robert wrote:This is going to be a real feature in the house as they already look impressive.

Did you pick up on some existing thing in the house for the design or just set out to create something that stands out?


Cheers Robert 8-)

Well, my first design 6 months ago was just an outline of the stair alterations with no featured detail. After sending this to the clients in an email with no quotes or anything else, I didn't hear back from them for quite a while and thought perhaps they've changed their minds about the whole project. Then, from nowhere, these guys posted a picture of a featured stair they very much liked, and so, I prepared some drawings based on the photo sent to me.

It works out for whatever reason, my email was never received and it also seems as I've only learnt today, several emails sent over the last 6 month period have been going into the client's spam box and not the inbox. At least he's aware of this now and is looking out for future emails I shall be sending.

So I can't take any credit for the design of the actual newel posts, as I have pretty much replicated the newels which were in the picture sent to me. Although they're not uncommon and similar panel framed newels have been used for period country houses scattered around the world. But nonetheless, I do like traditional and I like these newels very much.
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 30 Jul 2016, 19:40

tracerman wrote:Pinch - those newel posts are very nice , cant wait to see the stairs . ( Kirk was right , the stairs are butt-ugly ) .

Steve


Cheers Steve 8-)

I shall have all the newels finished during the coming week and then on with the stairs. I made a site visit today and the clients are extremely excited.

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 03 Aug 2016, 19:17

The newels are now finished and I've just started to set out for making the stairs - albeit, a few treads.

This is how I built out from the 100mm square core post to form both top and bottom plinths. Below, is showing the full newels for the 1st floor stair; face frames are on and I've formed several wrap-around frames to attach the lower plinths to.
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Here are the top plinths fixed, which are attached to the lower part of the face frames and are sat flush with the lower wrap-around frames.
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The tallest newel is now on the bench receiving the bottom plinth.
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And here they all are finished.

From left-to-right; first 3 are the half newels - 1no. for the first floor and 2no. for the ground floor. These will be cut to their final lengths/height as I start making the stairs. The next two are full newels for the 1st floor stair measuring 1945mm & 1245mm in height; and the two on the right are the pair of full newels for the ground floor stair measuring 1645mm in height.

All 7 newels consist of 296 separate pieces of timber to make up as seen in the photos below.

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Close up detail showing the stopped chamfer and scotia detail to the half newels.
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And here, I've just started to set out a full size workshop rod to make the actual stairs.
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Report back soon.

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Malc2098 » 03 Aug 2016, 19:29

Love it!
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby RogerS » 03 Aug 2016, 21:32

Looking really good, Paul. With all those pieces, how do you avoid glue squeeze out?
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 04 Aug 2016, 18:52

Malc2098 wrote:Love it!


Cheers Malc. 8-)
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 04 Aug 2016, 18:55

RogerS wrote:Looking really good, Paul. With all those pieces, how do you avoid glue squeeze out?


Cheers Chap. 8-)

I just wipe it off as it occurs.

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Andyp » 04 Aug 2016, 18:58

Is it all going to get painted Paul? I can't help thinking how gorgeous it would all look in oak or other hardwood.
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 04 Aug 2016, 19:07

Updatey......:::::---------//

After preparing the workshop rod, I cut some 25mm MDF (which I'm using for all string work) to the required width for the right hand cut string. I then marked and cut the treads & risers and used the whole thickness to act as the tenon into the newels.

Here's the ground floor right hand newel on the bench. After marking the mortice, I routered away zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......
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Then offered the side (cut string) into the full newel.
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Just the job!
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I then marked up the newels and routered these buggers too.
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Ta very much.

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 05 Aug 2016, 19:37

Andyp wrote:Is it all going to get painted Paul? I can't help thinking how gorgeous it would all look in oak or other hardwood.


Sorry Andy, I didn't see this last night.

Yes, all painted apart from the 1st tread and spindles which will be oak.

I agree, all in oak would be very nice. 8-)
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 05 Aug 2016, 19:46

Me again - with a bit more to show............ :eusa-think:

Right then, I've chopped out the housings for t'other side today.

Here are both newels on the bench to transfer and mark the housings from one to the other.
It all seems to be about newels posts at the moment, but it will get more exciting when I install this lot. :lol:

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And here, both sides in their pretty much correct positions. I've also used some scrap wood as handrails which I shall use as templates for the actual handrails.
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Nice...
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Report back soon.

Thank you very much.

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Rod » 05 Aug 2016, 21:13

Watching with interest

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Robert » 06 Aug 2016, 11:39

Rod wrote:Watching with interest

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby TrimTheKing » 07 Aug 2016, 08:55

Lovely work Paul, and thanks for sharing in such detail.

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Commander » 11 Aug 2016, 05:25

Excellent work Paul! It's exciting to see it come together like this!
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 12 Aug 2016, 19:45

Rod wrote:Watching with interest

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 12 Aug 2016, 19:46

Robert wrote:
Rod wrote:Watching with interest

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Cheers Robert - ah no worries chap. 8-)
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 12 Aug 2016, 19:47

TrimTheKing wrote:Lovely work Paul, and thanks for sharing in such detail.

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Cheers Mark - tis always a pleasure 8-)
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 12 Aug 2016, 19:47

Commander wrote:Excellent work Paul! It's exciting to see it come together like this!


Cheers Erich, I should be fitting this week after next 8-)
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Pinch » 19 Aug 2016, 21:03

Update:

Before I update, I thought I'd mention, just in case any of you fine chaps have thought, and you may not have of course, but just in case you have... "Hmmm, ole Pinch is dragging his heels with this one!" :eusa-think:

Hmmm, yes, you be right! :lol:

Mind you, I have been squeezing in other smaller jobs too (keep the old cash flow going), including a wardrobe for a mate, another boat repair and a couple of oak casements for a young couple in the village. Anyways, less of my excuses and on with the update. Afterall, it is beer night tonight - and we're off to the zoo to see some monkeys on Sunday :D

Okeydokey... Handrail... I decided to make the handrail as I have all of this project - bespoke n all that. I ripped down some timber to a finished width of 62mm and prepared it ready for the router - first in; a flutey bit to form two small rebates on the top surface.
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I continued with this bit to form a 25mm channel to the underside which will receive the spindles and spacers.
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And then a change over with a roundy bit to form a round-over through the top edges.
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Finally, a cheeky little scotia to the underside edges and just the jobby.
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I used a similar theme for the base rail. The left hand one is for the cut string (treads/risers are having fitted carpet) and right hand is for the normal string upstairs.
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I then ripped down to make the spindles (25mm sq finished size) and formed a stopped chamfer using this wee jig.
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I don't know what I did with the next piccies showing the handrail etc fitted.

Anyways, on with glue assembly.
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I then focussed on cutting and dry fitting the treads/risers for the ground floor stair. Here, I set the two side out in their correct widths - 800mm internally from large plinth-to-plinth.
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Ripped some MDF down for the treads & risers - bullynosed them and started fitting.
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Tread & riser #3.
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Tread & riser #4.
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Tread #1 is solid oak 25mm finished thickness. I glued some together and cleaned up.
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Offered it in situ to mark up for the shape.
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Then cut and bullynosed - here's top surface.
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Groove channel to the underside to receive riser #1.
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And offered into place to see how she's doing.
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That's it for the mo - tis now bar opening time..................((((((_!_))))))

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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Tusses » 20 Aug 2016, 09:44

excellent work Pinch ! as always :-)

but you knew that anyway ! :lol:
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby Malc2098 » 20 Aug 2016, 10:59

Outstanding work!
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Re: Stair alterations.

Postby MattS » 20 Aug 2016, 21:31

Really makes me realise how much work there is in a proper staircase! Great stuff :eusa-clap:
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