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Another end grain chopping board design #3

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Another end grain chopping board design #3

Postby Robert » 30 Mar 2020, 11:40

I've been messing about with this for a while now. Didn't take many pictures at the start but once it looked like it might work out I took more.

This is a 'I did it my way' version :)

I don't have the big machines you see in the youtube videos. I also don't have huge amounts of wood to waste cutting bits off to make angles. So no big slabs of wood. It was mostly old flooring and some wood I found in the shed.

The test piece (about 3ft long)

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I cut the 4 strips and wrapped masking tape bands around it to keep it together then unrolled the bundle and glued the touching surfaces. Then it went in the vacuum press bag. The idea being the shapes would naturally pull into alignment when under pressure from all sides.

It kind of worked but the the beech lath was hard to keep in the right place.

So next I glued just the lath to the bevelled mahogany batten
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Once they were dry it was back to the original method but more at a time
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Then make those strip assemblies into a slab
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No pictures but I glued some beech into a short wide plank, cross cut it at 46mm and then band sawed those into end grain strips.

Then the slab was cut into 45mm cross cut strips
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Glue up
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An Oak frame and lots of sanding later...

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Underside
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To anyone just looking at it, it looks quite impressive. to me though i mostly see the faults-

Like the small gaps
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And that one column I glued in the wrong way round!!
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And I'm currently sorting out wood for a different design..
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby 9fingers » 30 Mar 2020, 12:29

Looking good! well done.

If it is not too late, adding a little glue to any gaps, rubbing it in with a finger tip and then run the ROS over it is surprisingly effective at hiding them.
I could not possibly say how I know this :lol:

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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Malc2098 » 30 Mar 2020, 12:42

Nice. I like it.
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Doug » 30 Mar 2020, 12:55

Looks very good Robert, I like these 3D looking designs :eusa-clap:
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Robert » 30 Mar 2020, 13:11

Still trying to decide the best way to flatten something like this without a drum sander or large planer.

Thinking about making a router set up where the router is bolted to a channel and you bridge across 2 battens then plough away at the surface.

Then there is the wood lathe that i almost never use. Maybe some lash up on there could work as a drum sander..
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby RogerM » 30 Mar 2020, 13:42

Nice job Robert. I know from my own efforts how tiny measuring errors in the early stages seem to be exaggerated when accumulated in the final piece, but unless you point them out to people they'll never notice. I made the mistake of talking to "Woodbloke" (always an expensive experience - and I never learn) so ended up having to buy a drum sander, which is indeed the mutts nuts, but for this job I think I would go down the route of flattening with a router much as you describe, and then going down through the grits with a ROS, starting perhaps at 80. Or tell yourself that you're going to have a need to thickness veneers for future projects and justify a drum sander to yourself. You know you're worth it! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby 9fingers » 30 Mar 2020, 13:51

Flattening can also be done with a thicknesser - subject to its max cutting width.
Sacrifical end pieces of any timber can be glued on to leading and trailing edges to prevent breakout and then sawn off after planing.

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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Rod » 30 Mar 2020, 13:58

Nice work Roger.
Would love a sander but I’ve got a sledge I use for such purposes with my thicknesser.

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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Robert » 30 Mar 2020, 14:00

9fingers wrote:Flattening can also be done with a thicknesser - subject to its max cutting width.
Sacrifical end pieces of any timber can be glued on to leading and trailing edges to prevent breakout and then sawn off after planing.

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True but my planer/thicknesser is only 10 inch.

As to the drum sander it is as much the size of the thing as the cost. I don't have the space.
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Robert » 30 Mar 2020, 14:01

Rod wrote:Nice work Roger.
Would love a sander but I’ve got a sledge I use for such purposes with my thicknesser.

Rod


If I see Roger I'll tell him ;)

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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby 9fingers » 30 Mar 2020, 14:03

Robert wrote:
9fingers wrote:Flattening can also be done with a thicknesser - subject to its max cutting width.
Sacrifical end pieces of any timber can be glued on to leading and trailing edges to prevent breakout and then sawn off after planing.

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True but my planer/thicknesser is only 10 inch.

As to the drum sander it is as much the size of the thing as the cost. I don't have the space.


Maybe make two half boards <= 10" and glue together after thicknessing?

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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby DaveL » 30 Mar 2020, 14:36

The 3D look you have there is impressive, nicely done.
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby fiveeyes » 30 Mar 2020, 17:29

very nice..reminds me of office cubicles...now empty
suggestion for another..a maze :eusa-whistle:
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby 9fingers » 30 Mar 2020, 17:31

fiveeyes wrote:very nice..reminds me of office cubicles...now empty
suggestion for another..a maze :eusa-whistle:


I'm reminded of a big slab of chocolate!

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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby kirkpoore1 » 31 Mar 2020, 01:02

It reminds me of Renaissance Italian marquetry. Perhaps taken slightly to excess. :)

Very nice...

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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Andyp » 31 Mar 2020, 07:34

These do look impressive Roger.
I do not think therefore I do not am.

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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby TrimTheKing » 31 Mar 2020, 13:04

Andyp wrote:These do look impressive Roger.


You're getting no credit here Robert! :eusa-doh: :lol:
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby RogerM » 31 Mar 2020, 13:08

TrimTheKing wrote:
Andyp wrote:These do look impressive Roger.


You're getting no credit here Robert! :eusa-doh: :lol:


:text-+1: Yeh! Get it right guys. I'm just an interested bystander!
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Andyp » 31 Mar 2020, 14:58

:oops: Opps very sorry Robert. Too late for me to go back and edit now unless I delete the following posts. :oops:
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Robert » 31 Mar 2020, 15:40

I took it you were going along with the humour of Rod's error Andy.

Sitting here smiling so no worries anyone :)
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Robert » 31 Mar 2020, 15:51

I've been chopping up some old window boards and glueing them back together again as thick boards and I've planed and thicknessed some Maple flooring into strips that are glued into similar thick boards.

I need the thicker boards to have a go at this style.

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That is my sketchup drawing. Based on the Russian guys ideas but using my own sizes as theirs looks far too big. Should end up around 400mm square and it will have a similar edge frame to the one above.

Always assuming I get it right of course.

Idea is any new ones will make Christmas gifts. Might just get 2 boards out of what I have but may lose too much in sawdust from all the cutting. I'm getting through a lot of D4 glue!
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby RogerM » 31 Mar 2020, 17:27

Nice! That one's on my list as well. It's amazing how much wood and glue you get through with these isn't it. No wonder they are so expensive to buy, but very satisfying to make as well.
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Woodbloke » 03 Apr 2020, 10:46

RogerM wrote:I made the mistake of talking to "Woodbloke" (always an expensive experience - and I never learn)


:lol: :lol: - Rob

Edit - I'm quite taken by these 3D boards. I wonder if my recent 'lockdown' purchase of a gallon of TB3 would be enough to make one or two?
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Robert » 03 Apr 2020, 11:07

I'm band sawing a huge pile of strips at the moment so I don't lose so much in cut widths.

I keep stopping and thinking am I doing this right? Very confusing business. Have to build stacks with alternating colours and identical stacks with the colours reversed....i think :)

That first board above took about half a litre of glue. I've been a bit tight with it based on what may have been your past experiments comparing liberal glue to a thin smear and concluding thin was just as strong. Working OK so far.
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Re: Another end grain chopping board attempt

Postby Malc2098 » 03 Apr 2020, 11:31

Thinking about glue.

The author of the bandsaw box book I got for my birthday recommends sizing joints, especially mitre joints, before gluing.

He suggests 50/50 yellow glue and water for sizing both sides of the joint, particularly as it's end grain. Then when dry, gluing joint at normal strength. I find this uses less glue than even using the baby gluebot.

I now use a proper stiffish small paintbrush to brush the size, and glue on and I'm finding I'm getting less, but even squeeze out.

Not exactly, but something like these....
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