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Re: Table tops

Postby RogerM » 29 Jul 2020, 23:16

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MY63 wrote: The last time this happened I had to buy a replacement pad (not cheap) It is a black and decker random orbit sander. Has anyone got a fix.


Here's a dead cheap fix. When the pad wears out, head for you local haberdashery store and buy a metre or two of 50mm wide Velcro strip which ought to set you back about £2. Then proceed at a leisurely pace round to your local shed and buy a tube of impact adhesive. Cut the Velcro to fit, stick the strips to the pad and trim to shape with a Stanley knife. If there are any holes that need to be made in the Velcro, I use a 10mm leather punch to make them. It's cheap and it works; I'm on the second pad for my little Festool sander - Rob


Sounds like a plan as cunning as a very cunning thing! I'll try that on my triangular sanding pad on my multitool. :text-bravo:
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Re: Table tops

Postby Woodbloke » 30 Jul 2020, 06:09

RogerM wrote:
Sounds like a plan as cunning as a very cunning thing! I'll try that on my triangular sanding pad on my multitool. :text-bravo:

Thanks Rog; it's the hight of cunningness :lol: Seriously for a mo', I've found that the 'stickiness' of the pads fails after a fairly short time as the hooks tend to wear down fairly quickly. This is a cheap and nasty 'fix' that works well, especially if (as I do) you use the Abranet Mirka abrasive sheets.

If you've fallen far enough from sanity :lol: to find time to play on the lathe, you can also replace the surface on a Flexipad as the frictional heat generated makes them wear out incredibly quickly. I've got three of these things on the go at any one time - Rob
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Re: Table tops

Postby MY63 » 30 Jul 2020, 09:45

Thanks guys that sonds like a good plan, I think it is reassuring to know that this is not a fault with my sander more like a design issue.
Am I right in thinking all of the colour needs to come off before I can apply more stain.
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Re: Table tops

Postby 9fingers » 30 Jul 2020, 10:01

MY63 wrote:Thanks guys that sonds like a good plan, I think it is reassuring to know that this is not a fault with my sander more like a design issue.
Am I right in thinking all of the colour needs to come off before I can apply more stain.


Not necessarily but you need to get it back to an even level of colour to reduce the risk of a blotchy result.
If these tops are veneered timber, mdf or ply then make absolutely sure you dont sand through the veneer!

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Re: Table tops

Postby Malc2098 » 30 Jul 2020, 10:50

Would a cabinet scraper get that surface down more evenly?
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Re: Table tops

Postby MY63 » 30 Jul 2020, 11:41

Although I originally thought this was some sort of veneer when I sanded through the colour especially at the edges I found I could follow the grain over the edge as well as the joint lines.
I actually have some cabinet scrapers although I am not sure how my hands will stand up to hand scraping.
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Re: Table tops

Postby Woodbloke » 30 Jul 2020, 11:55

9fingers wrote:If these tops are veneered timber, mdf or ply then make absolutely sure you dont sand through the veneer!

Bob

When I was working in the 'trade' years ago, I actually watched one of guys go through the burr walnut veneer on top of an über-spendy walnut commode. Boss distinctly unchuffed :lol: - Rob
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Re: Table tops

Postby MY63 » 31 Jul 2020, 21:32

I think I might be getting the hang of this now, I am now trying to put as little varnish as possible and speading it with the brush.
It was very hot today and the varnish was drying very quickly, I did manage to get three good coats with a light rub with 320 grit mesh with one of those clever little handles that attaches to my shop vac.

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This is the end of day shot today I managed to get three projects in this picture table top garden planter just finished and an oak Captains chair not yet started.
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Re: Table tops

Postby 9fingers » 31 Jul 2020, 21:44

That will do nicely Michael

Coincidentally I've been using that varnish on a simple pine table I made yesterday.
I did not get into the workshop until 4pm but got two coats on with a gentle sand in between one before dinner and one after.
For basic jobs I'm converted to this stuff.
I think I will still use my (well Rod's really!) version of Sam Maloofs mixture for what I like to laughingly call fine furniture though.

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Re: Table tops

Postby RogerM » 31 Jul 2020, 22:44

Nice job Michael. You'll get the rest done in no time now that you have a "modus operandi".
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Re: Table tops

Postby Malc2098 » 01 Aug 2020, 09:03

Proper job, Michael, as they say down 'ere!
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