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"Antique" finish for pine.

PostPosted: 17 May 2020, 11:17
by 9fingers
I usually work in hardwoods but have been asked to make a chest in softwood pine. An "antique" look with a durable finish is called for. It will be jointly used for storage and coffee type table.

I've heard that staining pine can be at risk of going blotchy due to differential absorption of liquid stains so is tinted varnish to way to go?
Whatever I want to be able to give protection with a satin pu varnish to the surfaces so can't use coloured waxes.

Some guidance please to extend my comfort zone to cover this project.

Bob

Re: "Antique" finish for pine.

PostPosted: 17 May 2020, 12:31
by Doug
A coat of sanding sealer prior to staining will usually prevent a blotchy appearance just make sure the sanding sealer & stain are compatible .

Alternatively there are a lot of tinted PU varnishes out there which would do it all in one product.

I’ve also done a hand rail a while back that the chap wanted to match quite dark existing woodwork I used water based rosewood varnish that coloured the timber up quickly with multiple fast drying coats then finished with a PU varnish.

HTH

Re: "Antique" finish for pine.

PostPosted: 17 May 2020, 12:52
by 9fingers
Thanks Doug.

Interesting that you mention water based products. These do seem to be getting better than a decade ago when they too could give a blotchy finish. Then they were too quick drying and difficult to brush out in time.

Bob

Re: "Antique" finish for pine.

PostPosted: 17 May 2020, 14:29
by Woodster
I had a large piece of Pine furniture made for me that was stained “antique pine” and then waxed. No blotches on it at all and it still looks good now twenty years later. No idea of the products used but it was a specialist pine shop so I suppose they should know what they’re doing?!

Re: "Antique" finish for pine.

PostPosted: 17 May 2020, 17:46
by Woodbloke
Not sure about this one, but what about a tinted or coloured Osmo-PolyX? - Rob

Re: "Antique" finish for pine.

PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 07:08
by RogerS
Bob, while sorting out various old papers I came across an article "How to prevent blotching using a washcoat". The original link is 4040 but I found it again here http://www.refinishwizard.com/washcoatsolids.htm

Re: "Antique" finish for pine.

PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 08:59
by Doug
RogerS wrote:Bob, while sorting out various old papers I came across an article "How to prevent blotching using a washcoat". The original link is 4040 but I found it again here http://www.refinishwizard.com/washcoatsolids.htm


Seems a convoluted way to make a sealer when they are readily available cheaply in water, spirit & cellulose bases :eusa-think:

Re: "Antique" finish for pine.

PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 10:01
by 9fingers
I've used sanding sealer before just on end grain to stop that soaking up much stain which seems to be similar to the washcoat and as you say Doug, a whole lot simpler.
First job is to find some decent redwood.
Local trade place Sydenhams, say trade only, phone and collect but I suspect that might be out of date.
I need to check my quantities first and give them a ring.
I do have a limited company for my property rentals but dont want the faff of a trade account. I'll have to try some BS involving maintenance and see it they are more interested in doing business than checking companies house :lol:
Its a shame my mate has wound-up his woodworking company. I got spoilt by ordering all my timber through him.
Bob

Re: "Antique" finish for pine.

PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 10:08
by Doug
9fingers wrote:Its a shame my mate has wound-up his woodworking company. I got spoilt by ordering all my timber through him.
Bob


Was that Stuart, Bob? Jonny D said he thought he was selling his machines on Facebook, I’ve lost touch with a few of the chaps from WWUK

Re: "Antique" finish for pine.

PostPosted: 18 May 2020, 10:30
by 9fingers
Yes Doug PM sent.

Bob