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Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby RogerS » 06 Mar 2017, 17:35

As the subject line, really. SWMBO is quite keen on having some of these. Been watching too much Grand Designs! :lol:

The ones I'm thinking of are with, say, three doors that slide across each other down to one door width.
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby Phil » 07 Mar 2017, 07:00

Roger, have you looked at stacking doors?
We built with sliding doors and windows in the 3 bedrooms (lots of light and bright) and then in the living area a 3-panel stacking door to the patio and a 5-panel stacking door to the North. All aluminium framed.
The stacking doors give us a 1-panel opening, 2 etc.

All are fitted with Low-E glass (6mm) and a 35% film on the inside.
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby RogerS » 07 Mar 2017, 07:39

Phil wrote:Roger, have you looked at stacking doors?
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I did wonder about that but don't they need a recess to stack into ?
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby Phil » 07 Mar 2017, 13:05

I dont have a camera phone, so unable to show.

On the inside when they are open is flat. They stack on the outside so not a problem.
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby Phil » 07 Mar 2017, 13:12

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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby Robert » 07 Mar 2017, 13:43

Those are what we call bifold doors Phil. Sliding doors I take as being glass doors that slide one in front of the other only and do not swing open/ out.

We have bifold doors on our extension. the same company also made our lantern roof. Origin Doors - but they don't appear to do sliding doors.
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby Phil » 07 Mar 2017, 14:21

Robert wrote:Those are what we call bifold doors Phil. Sliding doors I take as being glass doors that slide one in front of the other only and do not swing open/ out.

We have bifold doors on our extension. the same company also made our lantern roof. Origin Doors - but they don't appear to do sliding doors.



Robert, you are right. Out here we know them as either bi-fold or stacking doors.
I have also seen stacking doors also referred to as say 3 panels sliding in front of each other - shops & restaurants. You loose the space in the opening of one width, as opposed to getting probably getting 90% open area with the bi-fold.

I remember your extension and the doors, wood always looks good, but in our very dry climate aluminium is a lot less maintenance All our windows, sliding and stacking doors are aluminuim framed in bronze colour.
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Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby TrimTheKing » 08 Mar 2017, 15:45

Roger take a look at Warmcore by synseal. I have just signed off on replacement of all our rotten old softwood windows, doors and bi-folds with a company fitting this product. Upvc central Core to the frames giving low U value wth aluminium facings on the inside and out. Both sides can be powder coated different colours to match your internal colour scheme.

I've played with a few at the showroom and customers houses and they appear very good quality indeed.

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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby RogerS » 08 Mar 2017, 17:11

Thanks Mark. What are the sight lines like when closed ?
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby TrimTheKing » 08 Mar 2017, 17:54

RogerS wrote:Thanks Mark. What are the sight lines like when closed ?


Dunno mate not had them fitted yet. Also depends on the width of the individual doors I guess. Difficult to tell in the showroom but the frames are quite slender comparative to others we looked at so hopefully not too bad. I'll tell you for sure in 4-6 weeks...

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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby Mike G » 08 Mar 2017, 18:16

I'm not sure if they do sliding doors, but for a sleek slim-lined modern look at excellent prices you won't do better than Velfac. The windows (and doors) are composite, being PPC aluminium on the outside and timber inside, and they look gorgeous. Frankly if people want sliding doors these days I usually point them at some frameless glazing, they get all excited and start salivating, and then hear the price. At that point we go back to bi-fold doors, or good old French windows.
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby RogerS » 08 Mar 2017, 18:54

Mike G wrote:I'm not sure if they do sliding doors, but for a sleek slim-lined modern look at excellent prices you won't do better than Velfac. The windows (and doors) are composite, being PPC aluminium on the outside and timber inside, and they look gorgeous. Frankly if people want sliding doors these days I usually point them at some frameless glazing, they get all excited and start salivating, and then hear the price. At that point we go back to bi-fold doors, or good old French windows.


Oh, you've done it now. :D "Frameless glazing" was exactly the term I was looking for to meet Chief Designers wishes. She's been bending my ear about this idea for ages.
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby Mike G » 08 Mar 2017, 21:58

Good luck with that one Roger! Just tell her that she'll have to give up her greenhouse to pay for it......
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby RogerS » 11 Mar 2017, 17:11

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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby Mike G » 11 Mar 2017, 20:10

They'll take your breath away when you get the price.
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby RogerS » 13 Mar 2017, 11:50

Mike G wrote:They'll take your breath away when you get the price.


I see what you mean :o
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby Mike G » 13 Mar 2017, 13:48

Like I said.......they go on lots and lots of my drawings, but very few (=none!) of my completed domestic projects.
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby RogerS » 30 Mar 2017, 08:15

In the end I opted for Solarlux doors for several reasons.

They were by far the most cost-effective solution. Much lower price than Velpac (which didn't meet the design criteria anyway as they slide left and right leaving two fixed panes on either side which we did not want).

Their sightlines on the meeting rail are much thinner than the others and so giving the impression of being 'open' when they are, in fact, closed.

Their price included installation and VAT. The guys that fit them are FENSA rated and so I can get the bit of paper. And they are literally just down the road in Carlisle. I've got them to liaise directly with my builder ...first meeting Tuesday on-site.
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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby TrimTheKing » 30 Mar 2017, 11:42

Which ones Roger? Just looking at the site and they have some nice looking stuff.

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Re: Any recommendations for external sliding glass doors

Postby RogerS » 30 Mar 2017, 12:19

TrimTheKing wrote:Which ones Roger? Just looking at the site and they have some nice looking stuff.

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