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Re: The builder's are coming (concrete coming)

Postby RogerS » 16 Jun 2017, 09:07

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Mike G wrote:
RogerS wrote:.........And LOML's nursery bed is becoming infested with Mare's Tail and I haven't the heart to tell her. :evil:


Move. You can never, ever beat them, unless they're in a lawn.


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Is that one of those new craft blonde beers ?
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Re: The builder's are coming (concrete coming)

Postby Doug » 16 Jun 2017, 09:51

RogerS wrote:
Is that one of those new craft blonde beers ?


I wouldn't want to be drinking it :o not at that price a pint :lol:
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Re: The builder's are coming (concrete coming)

Postby Mike G » 16 Jun 2017, 10:04

Doug wrote:........You sound like the old boys down the allotment Mike, they were doom & gloom when I first took over my plot in 2014 but now it's the clearest plot on the site, Kurtail Gold is excellent Rog


You recommend a beer to control Mare's Tails?! Wow..... :o

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Re: The builder's are coming (concrete coming)

Postby Doug » 16 Jun 2017, 12:33

Mike G wrote:
Doug wrote:........You sound like the old boys down the allotment Mike, they were doom & gloom when I first took over my plot in 2014 but now it's the clearest plot on the site, Kurtail Gold is excellent Rog


You recommend a beer to control Mare's Tails?! Wow..... :o

:lol:


I think it was the old boys drinking the beer Mike to forget about their mares tail problems :obscene-drinkingbuddies:

This is the stuff https://www.progreen.co.uk/kurtail-gold definitely don't get drinking it Rog
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Re: The builder's are coming (Houston - we have a problem)

Postby RogerS » 23 Jun 2017, 13:02

Houston - we have a problem.

Just tried fitting the first top sash

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They are all like that. :(
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Re: The builder's are coming (Houston - we have a problem)

Postby Phil » 23 Jun 2017, 13:07

RogerS wrote:Houston - we have a problem.

Just tried fitting the first top sash

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They are all like that. :(



Not familiar with sash windows.

Is it the gap on the left? :?


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Re: The builder's are coming (Houston - we have a problem)

Postby RogerS » 23 Jun 2017, 13:22

Yes, it is. About 8mm...way, way too much. Speaking to the company they say that they usually allow 5mm which IMO is ridiculously OTT. When I made my windows I'd allow for 1mm each side of the sash.
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Re: The builder's are coming (Houston - we have a problem)

Postby Phil » 23 Jun 2017, 13:27

RogerS wrote:Yes, it is. About 8mm...way, way too much. Speaking to the company they say that they usually allow 5mm which IMO is ridiculously OTT. When I made my windows I'd allow for 1mm each side of the sash.



What impact would it have on cold/hot wind summer or winter?
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Re: The builder's are coming (Houston - we have a problem)

Postby RogerS » 23 Jun 2017, 13:47

Phil wrote:
RogerS wrote:Yes, it is. About 8mm...way, way too much. Speaking to the company they say that they usually allow 5mm which IMO is ridiculously OTT. When I made my windows I'd allow for 1mm each side of the sash.



What impact would it have on cold/hot wind summer or winter?


None. Just that with all that slop any wind is going to rattle it back and forth.
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Re: The builder's are coming (Houston - we have a problem)

Postby TrimTheKing » 23 Jun 2017, 14:19

RogerS wrote:
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RogerS wrote:Yes, it is. About 8mm...way, way too much. Speaking to the company they say that they usually allow 5mm which IMO is ridiculously OTT. When I made my windows I'd allow for 1mm each side of the sash.



What impact would it have on cold/hot wind summer or winter?


None. Just that with all that slop any wind is going to rattle it back and forth.


Isn't that part of the 'charm' of an old house...?

:lol: ;)

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Re: The builder's are coming (Houston - we have a problem)

Postby Mike G » 23 Jun 2017, 14:34

Wow. Someone's tape measure doesn't work properly.
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Re: The builder's are coming (Houston - we have a problem)

Postby Rod » 24 Jun 2017, 12:08

Have you rejected them?

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Re: The builder's are coming (Houston - we have a problem)

Postby RogerS » 24 Jun 2017, 12:38

Rod wrote:Have you rejected them?

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Bit hard to do that TBH as I need them in situ ASAP. In extremis they can remake the top sashes. Various other options are under discussion.
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Re: The builder's are coming (Houston - we have a problem)

Postby chataigner » 25 Jun 2017, 09:59

Probably easier to adapt the frames with a little infill strip and a coat of paint ?
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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby RogerS » 03 Jul 2017, 11:22

After what seemed like an age with very few people onsite, the last month or so has seen a flurry of activity with an all-time maximum onsite staffing level of 5 :o

Very, very tiring trying to stay one step ahead of them with all my bits and pieces that needed doing, chasing up deliveries, re-organising failed deliveries, organising the supply of the correct items and working out what next to do and researching. Why I've not posted an update for a while.

Prime example of numpty suppliers. This is from North West Hardware...avoid them like the plague. I needed a Macclesfield Sill for the inward opening windows. The one they advertised was this

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Note the double seals...the critical one being the outermost one. To save time I got them to deliver it to the joinery company making the window for me. Big mistake. They sent this instead and which got fitted to the windows.

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North West Hardware's response ? They are the same. :cry:

We also set a record for the largest lorry (12.5 tonne) to deliver, reverse and leave without getting bogged down and requiring to be towed out with the digger. That was down to the excellent digger chap removing a load of mud and soil from what turned out to be the original hard approach road to the property. The original plan was to remove the mud and soil and fill in with rubble from the house but he sussed what he'd uncovered and so job done !

In no particular order, base preparation for LOML's orangerie

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No hardcore needed as full of stones and rocks fro earlier buildings. 6.8 cu m (and £650 quid lighter in the wallet) of concrete later (a late night for the guys as the lorry was late in arriving plus we had to dumper truck each lot down the long drive) we arrived at this

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You might just be able to discern the utilities pipe sticking up (mains and ethernet). Plan is to lay a course of bricks about 1m in from the perimeter, insert the DPM, some insulation and then pour the actual concrete base for the building on top.

I took a template of this arch which I rather liked

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then made up a former to match

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Hardboard then gets glued and nailed in place, the whole screwed up into the opening et voila

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That's the floor supports going down in the kitchen.

and WBP plywood down

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I knew that tiles would be expensive. ....first delivery

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but had no inkling as to the huge cost of WBP plywood (that floor was just shy of £500 :o ) or the cost of tile cement :o :o

The ditch is working well albeit needs a little tweaking with the fall

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And because my builder hasn't got any joiners readily available, it was down to me to convert this

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to this

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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby TrimTheKing » 03 Jul 2017, 12:19

Looking good Rog, although I have to say either your photography needs some work our your orangerie base is completely on the p*ss!!!!!

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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby Malc2098 » 03 Jul 2017, 12:41

Looking really good.

Going up to Alnwick with the family in a week or so. I have been given one half day's leave of absence!

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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby Rod » 03 Jul 2017, 15:19

To allow for all that rain Mark

The kitchen looks very nice and big.

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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby Tusses » 03 Jul 2017, 15:22

RogerS wrote:The ditch is working well albeit needs a little tweaking with the fall

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I see this and think water feature ! ?
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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby 9fingers » 03 Jul 2017, 15:54

Tusses wrote:
I see this and think water feature ! ?



I think Roger is rather hoping that with this ditch, water will NOT become a feature! :lol: :lol:

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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby Phil » 03 Jul 2017, 15:55

Tusses wrote:
RogerS wrote:The ditch is working well albeit needs a little tweaking with the fall

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I see this and think water feature ! ?



Agree!!! 8-)

Filter the water into a storage tank, fit a good sized pump, and then install a Versailles type fountain. 8-)

You just need to cover the ditch before someone falls in, all those visitors wanting to look at the garden at $50 per person (see other post) :lol:



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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby RogerS » 04 Jul 2017, 09:38

Rod wrote:To allow for all that rain Mark

The kitchen looks very nice and big.

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Yes..it is a bit large at 6.7m x 5.1m. Good for parties !
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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby RogerS » 20 Jul 2017, 07:27

Turns out that the too-thin upper sashes are the least of my problems. The pillocks fitted wagtails that are far too short. I did raise this issue with them over the phone but was assured that this was normal'. B*****ks it is.

This is the last window to be installed and I decided to rip off the side sheets. This is what happens.

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Thing is that the windows had to be installed because no room could be finished until they were. I knew that one window was tricky to open and close the sashes because of this. The penultimate window I found that I couldn't shut the lower sash and had to cut the cords. Hence deciding to open the last one up.

I have lost all faith in these windows. They are supposed to be coming today to sort them put and remove the wagtails. Quite how they are going to do that I will be interested to see. The only way that i can see is to cut out a square in the inner linings, cut the wagtail with a Fein or similar and then glue the square back in. Invisibly ? I think not. So every time I look at those windows I will be very sad. The other option is to do nothing and never ever open them.
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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby TrimTheKing » 20 Jul 2017, 15:19

I haven't a clue what I'm looking at Roger, can you explain?

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Re: The builder's are coming - update

Postby Robert » 20 Jul 2017, 16:14

I had to look up wagtail to see what one was. Having done that the picture is obvious.

The wagtail is the divider that keeps the travelling weights apart... and it is hard to understand why it is so short that it catches on the weight.
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