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Animal welfare

Postby Woodster » 22 Feb 2019, 10:54

Hope it’s ok to post this.

https://www.rspca.org.uk/getinvolved/ca ... YxNzkzOAS2

Some of you may care to sign.
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Re: Animal welfare

Postby Sulturner » 22 Feb 2019, 11:17

Hey Woodster

Great Post and something I was introduced to in Secondary school after being invited to join a visit to 10 abotoirs over a period of one year. They involved bot pre stun slaughter methods along with introductions to Kosher and Halal practices. In fear of offending and please belive me this is not my intention but I did Find the Kosher and halal methods to be carried out with greater respect to the animal. Hard to take given the method (for the record I am not religious in fact consider myself agnostic). I witnessed more perceived suffering and lack of human respect and decency towards the animals from the pre stun workers. I watched animals (cow sheep pigs and chickens) being kicked pushed prodded and in some instances being scared shooed and shouted along the line. Halal and Kosher practices on the other hand dictate the animal must be calm before the slaughter takes place and great care was taken to ensure this. This said I also must balance this with the fact that I did not enjoy in any way seeing an animal being bled out in front of me and can only comment from the estimate of at least 200 normal methods and maybe 20 or so Halal and Kosher methods I personally witnessed. I'll be watching this debate and topic closely and still feel that most adolescent children of sound mind should at least join with this part of life. If you want to eat meat then at least give the animal the respect of connecting with its demise and if possible life to help broaden our understanding of farming practices and meat processing practices. Interestingly enough we also visited a meat reclamation factory and since then I try my very best to stay clear of reclaimed meat products. Again these are just some thoughts and not intended to offend and thanks again for posting such a little understood topic. P. S. I also live on a dairy and sheep farm and volunteer through the year as a result of my visits.

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Re: Animal welfare

Postby 9fingers » 22 Feb 2019, 11:30

Gents, Can I draw your attention to viewtopic.php?f=18&t=58

Whilst I believe that the discussion has not contravened the rules so far, these type of threads can easily cross the line.
If you are thinking of replying, please take care to stay within the rules.

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Re: Animal welfare

Postby RogerS » 22 Feb 2019, 13:47

Duly signed and forwarded also.

I'll keep my counsel regarding the practice to avoid crossing our rules !
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Re: Animal welfare

Postby SamQ aka Ah! Q! » 22 Feb 2019, 14:45

As a Biologist, with an intimate knowledge of animal nerve function (though short of a Veterinary Scientist's), I had no hesitation in signing this.

I have no cultural bias or '-ism' to play here, but rather I am trying to represent the voiceless organisms we partially depend on for nutrition. I have no doubt that our 'food' stocks species have sentience and as such, any method which ignores their capacity to feel physical or mental distress is abhorent.

In that respect, I have mixed feelings re electric stunning, as I do not know for sure how quick and efficient (attaining full unconciousness) it is versus the undoubted instant cerebral destruction of say, a captive bolt gun or similar.

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Re: Animal welfare

Postby selectortone » 22 Feb 2019, 16:13

Happy to sign this, thanks for bringing it to our attention.
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Re: Animal welfare

Postby Woodster » 22 Feb 2019, 19:09

Thanks to all that signed. ;)
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Re: Animal welfare

Postby stu » 23 Feb 2019, 11:56

Surely you cant have 'animal welfare' and animal slaughter? Aren't they polar opposites?

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Re: Animal welfare

Postby selectortone » 23 Feb 2019, 14:48

stu wrote:Surely you cant have 'animal welfare' and animal slaughter? Aren't they polar opposites?


I see your point but, equally, anything done to improve the lives of farm animals is a step in the right direction. Small steps and all that...
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Re: Animal welfare

Postby Gill » 25 Feb 2019, 00:25

Signed.

I have strong opinions on this subject so it's probably best to say no more ;) .
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