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Lurker wrote:Presumably, there is a 50% likelihood that you are currently on a placebo at the present.
sunnybob wrote:The only people who can answer that are the ones you need to telephone. Do it now before you get a hundred "I'm not a doctor but" replies.
billw wrote:I would turn it down because of the possibility it might, even in a very small way, affect the trial results.
RogerS wrote:billw wrote:I would turn it down because of the possibility it might, even in a very small way, affect the trial results.
Mmm..an interesting point. As Lee Elms has said one can ask to be unblinded. If one has had the placebo then not an issue. But if one has had their vaccine then the ethics works both ways.
Would they be ethical in saying "Don't take the Pfizer vaccine because it will mess up our trial."
Would I be ethical in saying "I'll take the Pfizer vaccine as no-one knows how good your vaccine is". Should I run the risk of increasing my chances of catching Covid if theirs does not work ? This is Phase 3, after all...the testing of the efficacy.
They are between a rock and a hard place since a large proportion of their triallists are in the 65+ demographic and so a high likelihood that a lot will be offered another vaccine. So they are going to be under a lot of pressure to dissuade triallists from taking another vaccine.
novocaine wrote:Roger you are statistically insignificant. if you withdraw you will make bugger all difference. the bigger risk is that you are 1 of many who withdraw in order to take the new vaccine. this is partially the reason that vaccines are being developed in separate nations to prevent cross contamination of the sample and also why the pzier and AZ vaccinations had to be tested and released so close together (AZ not being able to conduct further studies because the pool is now contaminated)
If the AZ and Phizer vaccines weren't as effective as they are I'd say you would have more an ethical issue on your hands (could the trail you are in be more effective) but with 90-95% being the current figure Id say all the trial you are on is doing is providing another company the opportunity market a drug rather than save more lives (obviously this is a very naïve answer which is not based on all the evidence and excludes other benefits such as lower allergy rates, quicker and simple admission etc).
you are not being selfish if you back out and take the known vaccine.
ethical debate over, go get jabbed and become one of the new race of super humans with your little chips and mind control.
Lurker wrote:.....
As a matter of interest what vaccine are you trialling Roger..... Or can't you say?
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