It is currently 03 Mar 2024, 19:44

Photo Testing

Please list any and all bugs, feature requests etc in here and we can pick them up from one place. Only one bug/request per thread please, and make the title relevant so they are easy to pick out.

Photo Testing

Postby TrimTheKing » 05 May 2021, 20:14

Please can you test your photo importing issues in this thread by taking the same photo in both portrait and landscape as per the below post and see if it works as a temp fix.

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=5848&p=94414#p94414

Thanks
Cheers
Mark
TrimTheKing
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7526
Joined: 16 Jun 2014, 13:27
Location: Grappenhall, Cheshire
Name: Mark

Re: Photo Testing

Postby 9fingers » 05 May 2021, 21:48

Here goes all done on iPhone

1E4A5AC1-3CA9-482A-9C40-8C2148B793C7.jpeg
Landscape
(352.71 KiB)


EEC489A5-2474-46BD-A689-3B1662372E0D.jpeg
Portrait
(345.96 KiB)


Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Sequoia
 
Posts: 9998
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Photo Testing

Postby 9fingers » 05 May 2021, 22:03

Same photos emailed from iphone to win 10 laptop

taken landscape screenshot.jpg
taken landscape win 10 screenshot
(129.76 KiB)


Taken portrait screenshot.jpg
taken portrait win 10 screenshot
(82.65 KiB)


Here we see win 10 being capable of reading the orientation part of apple picture file format.

For those who are not aware, Apple record the image in the orientation that is comes off the camera sensor, it then appends information on the orientation that that is was taken. Apple claim this is for speed and faster effective shutter speed to be ready for the next picture.

Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Sequoia
 
Posts: 9998
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Photo Testing

Postby 9fingers » 05 May 2021, 22:22

Same again but win 7

Taken portrait win7 screenshot.JPG
Taken portrait win7 screenshot
(42.92 KiB)


Taken landscape win 7 screenshot.JPG
Taken landscape win 7 screenshot
(43.21 KiB)


So now we see that win 7 is not interpreting the orientation information

For my own amusement, I repeated this again on a win xp machine and it behaves the same as win 7 ie ignores the orientation info. Win zp does not have the part screen shot capture so you will have to take my word for it.

So for members with different operating systems and cameras you can see the source of confusion.

However I maintain (until proven otherwise) that taking photos on apple camera devices will work correctly if you only EVER take them in landscape in the first place and with volume buttons on the bottom edge.

Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Sequoia
 
Posts: 9998
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Photo Testing

Postby 9fingers » 05 May 2021, 22:32

However, I sometime forget to take in landscape every time so this is my method for forum writeups.

I email all my pics from my phone to my computer of choice and drop into a folder for the project on a shared network drive.
I then view them on that computer. Turn it round until happy then take a screenshot giving it a sensible title relevant to my proposed write up. Rinse and repeat for all pics and yes that does mean I two of everything.

Then I plan my write up, enter the text on the forum inserting pics as I go, readily identifying them from the titles. What is more every single one goes in the right way round no matter which platform I'm sending from. Win10( laptop in sociable mode, Win 7 in the office or (rarely) win XP direct from the workshop - perfect every time. It even works if I start the write up on one platform and do a bit more from another.

Bit like this thread - has been composed on three differnt platforms to illustrate how they behave differently

Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Sequoia
 
Posts: 9998
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Photo Testing

Postby Andyp » 06 May 2021, 08:03

Taken with ipad

Landscape, volume buttons down
225F63D7-82C6-4AEA-8B29-4693663AC8BC.jpeg
(239.92 KiB)


Portrait, volume buttons top right
0005FE1B-8065-496E-B244-616F16E8CB1D.jpeg
(271.17 KiB)


Well I never expected that

This is how they look in the photos app
3A8DE4C0-07B2-4641-A534-F42FEFD334E0.png
(2.08 MiB)
I do not think therefore I do not am.

cheers
Andy
User avatar
Andyp
Petrified Pine
 
Posts: 11636
Joined: 22 Jul 2014, 07:05
Location: 14860 Normandy, France
Name: Andy

Re: Photo Testing

Postby Andyp » 06 May 2021, 08:18

Taken Samsung A20e, android, emailed and then downloaded to iPad

Landscape
9D3D135A-717C-4D71-96AC-F5052F510FF0.jpeg
(219.65 KiB)


Portrait
6034BACA-B6DA-4C70-AA40-4AD7F6B8741F.jpeg
(176.28 KiB)


How they appear in Photos app
C05F499E-B425-42BB-B338-DC33137A0449.png
(443.29 KiB)
I do not think therefore I do not am.

cheers
Andy
User avatar
Andyp
Petrified Pine
 
Posts: 11636
Joined: 22 Jul 2014, 07:05
Location: 14860 Normandy, France
Name: Andy

Re: Photo Testing

Postby Woodster » 06 May 2021, 08:47

Both taken with an iPad held the right way up - Lens at the top. ;)
Last edited by Woodster on 07 May 2021, 21:20, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Woodster
Old Oak
 
Posts: 2558
Joined: 26 Jan 2017, 13:17
Location: Dorset
Name:

Re: Photo Testing

Postby TrimTheKing » 06 May 2021, 08:59

Andy

Have you got rotation lock enabled on your iPad? That’s the only reason I can fathom for your iPad results.
Cheers
Mark
TrimTheKing
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7526
Joined: 16 Jun 2014, 13:27
Location: Grappenhall, Cheshire
Name: Mark

Re: Photo Testing

Postby TrimTheKing » 06 May 2021, 09:01

Woodster wrote:
FA187E54-0984-4CA8-933A-6097B3D0E45C.jpeg

473BEB4B-2AC7-42A4-83DF-79604F4629B9.jpeg


Both taken with an iPad held the right way up - Lens at the top. ;)


The landscape one isn’t landscape then surely, if you’ve held the iPad upright the whole time? Unless the iPad uses its camera in a different way to the iPhone...which I have neither the time nor inclination to get into.
Cheers
Mark
TrimTheKing
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7526
Joined: 16 Jun 2014, 13:27
Location: Grappenhall, Cheshire
Name: Mark

Re: Photo Testing

Postby Dr.Al » 06 May 2021, 09:17

TrimTheKing wrote:
Woodster wrote:
FA187E54-0984-4CA8-933A-6097B3D0E45C.jpeg

473BEB4B-2AC7-42A4-83DF-79604F4629B9.jpeg


Both taken with an iPad held the right way up - Lens at the top. ;)


The landscape one isn’t landscape then surely, if you’ve held the iPad upright the whole time?


I don't have an iPad, but if I remember correctly, the lens is in a corner. If that's true, then there are two orientations where the lens is at the top - one portrait, one landscape.
My projects website: https://www.cgtk.co.uk
User avatar
Dr.Al
Old Oak
 
Posts: 1914
Joined: 31 Dec 2020, 10:11
Location: Dursley, Gloucestershire
Name: Al

Re: Photo Testing

Postby TrimTheKing » 06 May 2021, 09:24

Ahhhh I didn’t twig that, I assumed ‘right way up’ referred to camera at the top and home button at the bottom. I missed the nuance. :)
Cheers
Mark
TrimTheKing
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7526
Joined: 16 Jun 2014, 13:27
Location: Grappenhall, Cheshire
Name: Mark

Re: Photo Testing

Postby AJB Temple » 06 May 2021, 09:44

Do you still want me to ring Mark or is this thread doing the job? I can do a similar test if you want when I get into my office.

Adrian
Don't like: wood, engines, electrickery, decorating, tiling, laying stone, plumbing, gardening or any kind of DIY. Not wild about spiders either.
User avatar
AJB Temple
Sequoia
 
Posts: 5300
Joined: 15 Apr 2019, 09:04
Location: Kent
Name: Adrian

Re: Photo Testing

Postby Andyp » 06 May 2021, 09:55

TrimTheKing wrote:Andy

Have you got rotation lock enabled on your iPad? That’s the only reason I can fathom for your iPad results.


Defo not Mark . Lock Rotation is off
I do not think therefore I do not am.

cheers
Andy
User avatar
Andyp
Petrified Pine
 
Posts: 11636
Joined: 22 Jul 2014, 07:05
Location: 14860 Normandy, France
Name: Andy

Re: Photo Testing

Postby 9fingers » 06 May 2021, 10:03

Andyp wrote:Taken with ipad

Landscape, volume buttons down
The attachment 225F63D7-82C6-4AEA-8B29-4693663AC8BC.jpeg is no longer available


Portrait, volume buttons top right
The attachment 0005FE1B-8065-496E-B244-616F16E8CB1D.jpeg is no longer available


Well I never expected that

This is how they look in the photos app
The attachment 3A8DE4C0-07B2-4641-A534-F42FEFD334E0.png is no longer available


Hmm! looks like ipad and iphone have different camera positions.
on my phone, looking at the screen, in portrait the volume button are on the left and the lens top right.
Maybe my so called "rule" should be camera at the top rather than buttons at the bottom.

Interesting re your samsung. maybe they have followed apples lead in photo file format especially as your mac get the orientation correct.
Another possibility is that the EXIF info on photos is being read by your mac and implementing camera specific display orientation manipulation.
Here is some of the exif info on the portrait picture in my tests last night.
It shows the rotation instruction that apple and win 10 are using.

Bob
portrait exif info 3602.jpg
(68.67 KiB)
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Sequoia
 
Posts: 9998
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Photo Testing

Postby 9fingers » 06 May 2021, 10:06

BTW this is the EXIF data viewer, donkey years old, that I use

http://exif.regex.info/exif.cgi

Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Sequoia
 
Posts: 9998
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Photo Testing

Postby TrimTheKing » 06 May 2021, 10:08

AJB Temple wrote:Do you still want me to ring Mark or is this thread doing the job? I can do a similar test if you want when I get into my office.

Adrian


I was just going to talk you through this mate so feel free to call if you fancy a general chat or just follow this if you’re happy. I want to know if it works for you as it will be a stop gap solution to ensure you’re happy posting pics until we have the new forum up and running.
Cheers
Mark
TrimTheKing
Site Admin
 
Posts: 7526
Joined: 16 Jun 2014, 13:27
Location: Grappenhall, Cheshire
Name: Mark

Re: Photo Testing

Postby AJB Temple » 06 May 2021, 10:39

Just called you Mark and phone was off. Waiting for Photos to sync then will post some test shots.
Don't like: wood, engines, electrickery, decorating, tiling, laying stone, plumbing, gardening or any kind of DIY. Not wild about spiders either.
User avatar
AJB Temple
Sequoia
 
Posts: 5300
Joined: 15 Apr 2019, 09:04
Location: Kent
Name: Adrian

Re: Photo Testing

Postby AJB Temple » 06 May 2021, 10:51

Portrait screen button.jpeg
Portrait using screen button on iPhone 11 Pro running 14.4.2
(273.78 KiB)


landscape screen button.jpeg
Landscape using screen button on 11 Pro
(276.01 KiB)


portrait awakward volume button.jpeg
Portrait taken with volume button 11 Pro
(289.11 KiB)


landscape awkward volme button.jpeg
Landscape with volume button 11 Pro
(286.78 KiB)


Four versions of same photo. Camera is in fact an iPhone 11 Pro (not X as I previously said - they all look the same). It is running 14.4.2. Uploaded on Safari, latest version using my normal laptop used for forum generally. All photos synced from iPhone to Photos on Mac, then dragged to desktop and renamed. No rotation.

Also did test on another forum I have access to. Interestingly on WHII upload (after photo chosen and registered as such on site) took between 17 seconds and 43 seconds for each photo (landscape both took longer). On the other forum it was drag and drop and took less than 3 seconds each, including rendering to screen. Same internet connection a few moments apart. Different forum software so that may explain it.
Don't like: wood, engines, electrickery, decorating, tiling, laying stone, plumbing, gardening or any kind of DIY. Not wild about spiders either.
User avatar
AJB Temple
Sequoia
 
Posts: 5300
Joined: 15 Apr 2019, 09:04
Location: Kent
Name: Adrian

Re: Photo Testing

Postby AJB Temple » 06 May 2021, 10:52

OK, so all four have failed, irrespective of which button I use. On the other forum all four posted the right way up.

Your phone is still off Mark.
Don't like: wood, engines, electrickery, decorating, tiling, laying stone, plumbing, gardening or any kind of DIY. Not wild about spiders either.
User avatar
AJB Temple
Sequoia
 
Posts: 5300
Joined: 15 Apr 2019, 09:04
Location: Kent
Name: Adrian

Re: Photo Testing

Postby Woodbloke » 06 May 2021, 10:57

IMG_5607.jpg
(191.25 KiB)


Portrate

IMG_5606.jpg
(295.9 KiB)


Landscape

Taken on iPhone7>MacBook>Desktop>forum

Pics not rotated - Rob
I no longer work for Axminster Tools & Machinery.
User avatar
Woodbloke
Sequoia
 
Posts: 5830
Joined: 22 Jul 2014, 10:06
Location: Salisbury, UK
Name:

Re: Photo Testing

Postby 9fingers » 06 May 2021, 11:03

Adrian,
On your landscape shots, where was the lens? upper edge of the phone or lower edge?
really curious about the 180 degree flip

What does the exif information say about orientation?

Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Sequoia
 
Posts: 9998
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Photo Testing

Postby 9fingers » 06 May 2021, 11:06

Rob, seems like you and Adrian are both 100% fruit powered and yet getting different results?

Gotta be some sort of clue regarding Adrian's persistent problem.

Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Sequoia
 
Posts: 9998
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Re: Photo Testing

Postby Woodbloke » 06 May 2021, 11:11

9fingers wrote:Rob, seems like you and Adrian are both 100% fruit powered and yet getting different results?

Gotta be some sort of clue regarding Adrian's persistent problem.

Bob

I took the pics exactly as requested Bob, so dunno what's going on with Adrian's set up? The Macbook I'm using is about 25mm thick and the OS is so old I can't update it as we lost track of the passwords a decade ago, so it's running on a very early edition of Safari - Rob
I no longer work for Axminster Tools & Machinery.
User avatar
Woodbloke
Sequoia
 
Posts: 5830
Joined: 22 Jul 2014, 10:06
Location: Salisbury, UK
Name:

Re: Photo Testing

Postby 9fingers » 06 May 2021, 11:31

Woodbloke wrote:
9fingers wrote:Rob, seems like you and Adrian are both 100% fruit powered and yet getting different results?

Gotta be some sort of clue regarding Adrian's persistent problem.

Bob

I took the pics exactly as requested Bob, so dunno what's going on with Adrian's set up? The Macbook I'm using is about 25mm thick and the OS is so old I can't update it as we lost track of the passwords a decade ago, so it's running on a very early edition of Safari - Rob


I guess that is why Mark and Adrian plan to talk on the phone. until reading further up this thread, I did not know there was such a thing as rotation lock which I will have to find as little more frustrating than turning a phone round to take a closer look at summat and it automatically turning image agin your wishes.

Bob
Information on induction motors here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBTVXx ... sp=sharing
Email:motors@minchin.org.uk
User avatar
9fingers
Sequoia
 
Posts: 9998
Joined: 21 Jul 2014, 20:22
Location: Romsey Hampshire between Southampton and the New Forest
Name: Bob

Next

Return to Technical Issues, Bugs and Feature Requests

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

cron