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Re: Small workshop

Postby Malc2098 » 19 Feb 2019, 22:06

:D

Just pain meds?!

I had lumbar support belt, hot baths and homedics shiatsu chair therapy!

And days off between days of work. Didn't think that would be needed, but it was.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby MY63 » 19 Feb 2019, 22:58

As with all my working Malcolm I work for a couple of hours and then rest I am not able to work a full day.
My medicine cabinet is a cornucopia of pain medications everything from Paracetamol to Ketamine and some really cool patches that can be cut to size and basically turn the area numb in around five minutes and last for hours.
Nerve damage is such a joyous thing.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby MY63 » 20 Feb 2019, 11:56

We have had some rain overnight so I am waiting for it to dry up before I do anything involving large sheets of OSB.
As an aside our garden is usually full of birds from pigeons to smaller ones on the bird feeders this morning nothing nada not a twitch even when myself or the dogs are out there, there are still birds flying around.
Then I noticed this sitting on the back fence.

Image2019-02-20_10-48-53 by my0771, on Flickr

Sorry its a bad picture the phone was at max zoom and seems to have focused on the shed. I could see with my mk1 eyeball it had big yellow feet :D anyone know what it is
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Re: Small workshop

Postby DaveL » 20 Feb 2019, 12:16

Well I am not sure quite what it is but that's why there are no other birds in the garden, its looking for a meal!
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Re: Small workshop

Postby Rod » 20 Feb 2019, 13:08

Female Sparrowhawk

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That ones a male, more brown, eating a Collard Dove

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Re: Small workshop

Postby MY63 » 20 Feb 2019, 17:14

Yes Rod that is it Sparrow hawk.
It is still raining here so much for the weather forecast of intermittent showers. :lol:

Has anyone ever used the Kreg rip cut guide.
https://www.toolstoreuk.co.uk/kreg-kma2 ... tric/p6757
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Re: Small workshop

Postby RogerS » 20 Feb 2019, 17:18

MY63 wrote:Yes Rod that is it Sparrow hawk.
It is still raining here so much for the weather forecast of intermittent showers. :lol:

Has anyone ever used the Kreg rip cut guide.
https://www.toolstoreuk.co.uk/kreg-kma2 ... tric/p6757


My experience of these type of things is that they are too hard to keep everything in the right place at the right time. You've got to control the saw AND ensure with the other hand that the guide is staying tight against the edge. I much prefer the Festool track which has sticky rubber bits underneath.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby Mike G » 20 Feb 2019, 17:21

MY63 wrote:.......Has anyone ever used the Kreg rip cut guide.
https://www.toolstoreuk.co.uk/kreg-kma2 ... tric/p6757


No. This is what I do:

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Re: Small workshop

Postby Malc2098 » 20 Feb 2019, 18:19

MY63 wrote:Yes Rod that is it Sparrow hawk.
It is still raining here so much for the weather forecast of intermittent showers. :lol:

Has anyone ever used the Kreg rip cut guide.
https://www.toolstoreuk.co.uk/kreg-kma2 ... tric/p6757


Yes, I've got one. I bought it before I got my cheap aldidl tracksaw. I used it to cut along the length of 8x4 sheets. I haven't got long enough track to use the tracksaw.

I get on OK with it. I've even used it as a big try square on occasions.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby MY63 » 20 Feb 2019, 18:58

I should have pointed out what my tool budget was when asking such a question, well there is no tool budget because I have spent it all on timber :). When I did have a budget it was more Aldi than Festool.
Mike I like your style and am halfway there as I have those clamps it looks like you are using aluminium channel which I don't have however I could use the edge of another board in a similar fashion.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby Mike G » 20 Feb 2019, 19:11

Yes, if you don't have a long aluminium channel like mine, you can use an old spirit level, or shower-screen extrusion, or 6 or 9 inch wide piece ripped off a sheet of MDF. There are lots of straight things kicking around if you keep your eyes open.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby Mike G » 20 Feb 2019, 19:12

MY63 wrote:......there is no tool budget because I have spent it all on timber :).......


That is precisely the way it should be. If only more people did this.......
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Re: Small workshop

Postby MY63 » 20 Feb 2019, 20:14

Speaking of spending money on timber I have just realised that I have not ordered enough sheets of OSB for the roof 3 sheets of 2440 x 1220 is not going to cover 2 sides at 1470 x 3600 at least it is not being delivered until Friday so I can go back tomorrow and change it.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby Rod » 21 Feb 2019, 07:14

Using an off cut of MDF or ply works fine to give a straight edge.
That’s what use with my elderly B&D circular saw.

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Re: Small workshop

Postby MY63 » 21 Feb 2019, 20:03

As usual things did not go as planned but I have made progress.
I started with the window wall I am not sure why the first board was difficult as the corner was slightly less than square. I used a large 4 x 4 in post up on the rear decking resting it against the end wall which squared it up nicely.

Image2019-02-21_06-21-13 by my0771, on Flickr

After cutting the second board to height I placed it in the second corner my plan being to use offcuts to fill the top and bottom around the window.
Rather than mess about with the front around the doors I decided to do the other side. I think I made an error cutting the first sheet of this side as I have a gap in the top right hand corner.

Image2019-02-21_06-28-21 by my0771, on Flickr

As you can see I have also managed to fit the first inner roof panel to do this I made a tempoary support and with the help of my long suffering wife we lifted it on to the support. Of course we had to take it down to take 5mm off the width.
The other thing I need to confess to is despite reading about sizes of sheets of OSB being 1220 x 2440mm I still made my joist spacings 600mm. My simple solution was to order more wood which is comming tomorrow. I also ordered 2 more sheets of OSB3.

Image2019-02-21_06-21-31 by my0771, on Flickr

When it comes to joints can they be anywhere or should they be at the top or the bottom.

My taupalin is supposed to be 5m x 4m but I could not get it on tonight so I hope it does not rain overnight.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby Andyp » 21 Feb 2019, 20:09

I have never had the opportunity to put a shed together but I follow all these builds with interest and awe in what is achieved.

It looks very good to my untrained eyes.
I do not think therefore I do not am.

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Re: Small workshop

Postby Mike G » 21 Feb 2019, 21:43

MY63 wrote:As usual things did not go as planned but I have made progress.
I started with the window wall I am not sure why the first board was difficult as the corner was slightly less than square. I used a large 4 x 4 in post up on the rear decking resting it against the end wall which squared it up nicely...........


A tip for next time: Use the OSB to square things up. Be careful to line the bottom of the board up exactly with the sole plate, and screw just the bottom edge into place. Then go to the wall plate at the top of the board, and push or pull it against the edge of the OSB, until everything lines up. I know that's easy for me to say and would be more of a struggle for you, but this can all be done with wedges, screws, and one-handed clamps. As soon as it is clamped square you know you've trued up the whole wall.

Joints can be anywhere. Just work out where it is easiest to handle whole sheets into place.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby MY63 » 21 Feb 2019, 22:04

Sorry Mike my poor description again it was the square edge of the OSB that showed me the wall was not square. I had remembered you mentioning using the board edge. I found the biggest timber I had and put it on the upper decking and pulled the frame until I was happy and the weight of the timber held it while I put a screw or 2 in.
I found an old set of Aldi drills with 2 x 2.5mm drills in so I used those to give me a nice gap.

I used off cuts of the sheeting to help guide my saw and also found the guide that came with the saw which was very useful. I actually find this quite easy to use as I need to use the saw in my left hand so I think the Kreg guide might work for me.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby jules70 » 21 Feb 2019, 22:46

OSB is available in both 2440x1220mm and 2400x1200mm. If you can't find the 2400x1200mm size in your builders merchants, you should be able to source from a local timber frame (house building) company.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby MY63 » 22 Feb 2019, 08:23

jules70 wrote:OSB is available in both 2440x1220mm and 2400x1200mm. If you can't find the 2400x1200mm size in your builders merchants, you should be able to source from a local timber frame (house building) company.


Thanks Jules I was aware of the different sizes and I read posts where correct spacings were given but I still made the mistake. But I have added extra studs and have timber on the way to provide more should they be required. I have trimmed the roof panels to the correct size.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby will1983 » 22 Feb 2019, 13:02

I boarded out the inside of my workshop a week or two ago, I left 3mm gaps using plastic packers as spacers and then covered all those with 100mm wide trims.

I lifted the bottom edge of the lowest sheets up by 50mm (ish) and then used more of the 100mm trims as skirting boards. The trims were likely unnecessary but I had the material and thought why not. If you want to see what it looks like have a look at my Instagram feed, there's a video or two on there showing the process and finished article.

Yours is looking good now, it'll soon be insulation and cladding time! Have you ordered the cladding yet? What are you going/gone for?

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Re: Small workshop

Postby MY63 » 22 Feb 2019, 14:51

Thanks Will I will have a look at your Instagram account.
This morning I have fitted the other long roof panel using a wooden batten to help hold it in place.

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I have also cut the panels for the rear wall which needed a little help from the long 4 x4 post I used on the outside yesterday. With the textured floor I put it in place and tapped it with my foot until the edges lined up.

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I just need to cut and fit the two smaller roof panels the front wall panels and the upper and lower window panels.
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Re: Small workshop

Postby Malc2098 » 22 Feb 2019, 15:12

You'll have your armchair and minibar in there soon! :D
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Re: Small workshop

Postby 9fingers » 22 Feb 2019, 15:17

Malc2098 wrote:You'll have your armchair and minibar in there soon! :D


And medicine chest by the sound of it too :lol: :lol:

Coming on nicely now.

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Re: Small workshop

Postby MY63 » 22 Feb 2019, 18:52

There is not going to be any sitting in this workshop medicine cabinet is an option :D
The sun has gone down and it is time to stop for the day.
I need to add some support on the front and rear rafters to fix the ceiling panels to lots of screws to add to final fix everything.
I had to take the insulation out of the garage to get the OSB for the roof in so it is now in the workshop under the tarpaulin.

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