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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Half drainage done)

Postby Malc2098 » 10 Jan 2018, 17:56

Mike G wrote:Have you got permanent access to that right angle, Malcolm?



I wondered who'd spot that!

You can probably see that the top of the pipework is not that far below the ground level.

Phase 2 of the build will be a deck coming out from the doors with a roof over. The width doesn't quite go to the corner of the building. So the pipe from the gulley and the bend will be outside the deck. The gulley is roddable. The bend going down into the soakaway will be below the deck, but not far below ground level. I will build a trap door into deck to access that bend.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Half drainage done)

Postby Mike G » 10 Jan 2018, 18:37

So long as the entire length of pipe is roddable......
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Half drainage done)

Postby 9fingers » 10 Jan 2018, 18:43

Mike G wrote:So long as the entire length of pipe is roddable......


I'd be tempted to tee in a rodding eye at that right angle and put your trap door over it if needs be. A good fine grating on the gully is worth thinking about too. Might block with leaves but trivial to clear in the autumn.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Half drainage done)

Postby Malc2098 » 29 Jan 2018, 16:32

Having taken on board your observations, I've sourced a mini access chamber, riser and lid. Today was not the best of weather to try and connect it all, but I managed.

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I know someone will observe he bricks below the pipework, but they are 2" below the pipe and I'm trying to use up leftover materials, where appropriate, indeed I have pea shingle left over, but not a lot.

I ran out of lubricant and can't remember where I bought the last tube. So I googled 'silicone lubricant'.

Well.....you'd be surprised the number of smutty websites that came up, as well as Screwfix, which has now opened in Tiverton!!! That saves a 40 mile round trip!
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Half drainage done)

Postby 9fingers » 29 Jan 2018, 16:46

Malc2098 wrote:I ran out of lubricant and can't remember where I bought the last tube. So I googled 'silicone lubricant'.

Well.....you'd be surprised the number of smutty websites that came up, including Screwfix, which has now opened in Tiverton!!! That saves a 40 mile round trip!



Hmm! I'd rather thought it might have been Screw-un-fix selling lube? :lol:

For the odd drainage lubrication job, washing up liquid works well. I'm too late in this case.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Half drainage done)

Postby Malc2098 » 30 Jan 2018, 16:38

Back filled.

The clay soil here in Mid-Devon is like glue after all that rain we had!!!!

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I'm leaving the riser untrimmed until I know what the ground level we be for Phase 2.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Malc2098 » 04 Feb 2018, 17:04

Well, if that Trim's at it, then I better get a wiggle on!

I'm in the process of preparing the armoured cable route from the house to the workshop. It will come out through the wall behind the consumer unit, along the wall to the corner and then underneath the concrete path to then go alongside next door's garage where it will go underground again across to the workshop.

So, I've got to get it under the concrete path. What you're looking at is an optical illusion! Those drain rods are not connected. They've each gone in from either side and I haven't found their ends yet, and I'm about 450mm down!

Hey, ho. Tomorrow's another day.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby RogerS » 04 Feb 2018, 18:28

I think I'd have been inclined to hire a Skilsaw and cut the trench in the concrete then make good. Your difficulty (as by now I'm sure you realise) is getting 'in' to work from the far end.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Malc2098 » 04 Feb 2018, 18:33

RogerS wrote:I think I'd have been inclined to hire a Skilsaw and cut the trench in the concrete then make good. Your difficulty (as by now I'm sure you realise) is getting 'in' to work from the far end.



I had thought about that, Roger, but a quick lift of the paving slab shows the concrete just less than 100mm. It's a mixture of hollow, clay and thermalite underneath. I'm about 400 mm down the hole on the far side and can get my arm down. It's just a question of removing clay and locating the end of the rod.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Malc2098 » 05 Feb 2018, 15:29

Bingo!!

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It's amazing what you find under 50 year old concrete!!

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Half a pint-ish, I think. The can looks almost as tiny as a mixer can!
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby RogerS » 05 Feb 2018, 15:32

Ah, Grotneys. Like making love in a canoe.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Malc2098 » 05 Feb 2018, 15:34

RogerS wrote:Ah, Grotneys. Like making love in a canoe.



:lol:

No wonder CAMRA succeeded with the likes of Red Barrel on the bar!

Who remember the Party 7 or the Pipkin?!
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Rod » 05 Feb 2018, 16:19

Yes but trying to forget

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Malc2098 » 07 Feb 2018, 17:11

Not sure if anyone spotted, but the Watney's can was for export only, was about a half pint and it was also a ring pull!

My house was built in 1968. I don't recall ring-pulls that early, or is my memory playing tricks?!

Indeed, the aforementioned Party 7 had to be opened with a can opener, those that made a little triangular hole, and by the time you got to the party in 1968, having run for the bus, when you came to open it, everyone had to duck!!
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby 9fingers » 07 Feb 2018, 17:41

Malc2098 wrote:Not sure if anyone spotted, but the Watney's can was for export only, was about a half pint and it was also a ring pull!

My house was built in 1968. I don't recall ring-pulls that early, or is my memory playing tricks?!

Indeed, the aforementioned Party 7 had to be opened with a can opener, those that made a little triangular hole, and by the time you got to the party in 1968, having run for the bus, when you came to open it, everyone had to duck!!



I agree. I was buying party 4s and 7s in 68-71 is and needed one of those lever opener tools to both let the beer out and the air in.
Not sure when ring pulls started. First ones were round and would work some parking meters that took shilling/5p coins. Push in and pull out again as I recall. Then they made them oval to stop out fun and finally they stay attached to the can to reduce nuisance littering.

Now the bloody things are on food cans and Mrs can't open them even with a special tool I got her. Some tins now have a flange on the base to allow interlocked stacking and she can't even turn them upside down to use the electric can opener. Would be good if manufacturers considered the disabled/infirm. Don't get me started on medicine packaging.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Half drainage done)

Postby Mike G » 07 Feb 2018, 20:45

Malc2098 wrote:.......I ran out of lubricant and can't remember where I bought the last tube....


WD40 works beautifully.

Detergent also works, but then dries and you really, really struggle to get a joint apart again.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Jjenks » 07 Feb 2018, 21:31

9fingers wrote:
Malc2098 wrote:Not sure if anyone spotted, but the Watney's can was for export only, was about a half pint and it was also a ring pull!

My house was built in 1968. I don't recall ring-pulls that early, or is my memory playing tricks?!

Indeed, the aforementioned Party 7 had to be opened with a can opener, those that made a little triangular hole, and by the time you got to the party in 1968, having run for the bus, when you came to open it, everyone had to duck!!



I agree. I was buying party 4s and 7s in 68-71 is and needed one of those lever opener tools to both let the beer out and the air in.
Not sure when ring pulls started. First ones were round and would work some parking meters that took shilling/5p coins. Push in and pull out again as I recall. Then they made them oval to stop out fun and finally they stay attached to the can to reduce nuisance littering.

Now the bloody things are on food cans and Mrs can't open them even with a special tool I got her. Some tins now have a flange on the base to allow interlocked stacking and she can't even turn them upside down to use the electric can opener. Would be good if manufacturers considered the disabled/infirm. Don't get me started on medicine packaging.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Malc2098 » 13 Feb 2018, 23:20

The SWA is fixed to the house wall, buried underneath the path, up again and cleated along the garden boundary wall, and cleated along the next door's garage which doubles as a boundary wall. Just 3m of trench now to dig across to the 'shop.

Electrician called round yesterday to look at where it enters the house and promised to get back to me with a date for a week or two's time.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby TrimTheKing » 14 Feb 2018, 00:10

Good work matey.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Malc2098 » 16 Feb 2018, 16:45

Trench dug, cable laid, backfilled, back aches!!!

Oh, BTW, I covered the cable with the coping stones that came off the garden wall that was demolished to make way for the 'shop. I feel sustainability chuffed. No demolition spoil went to the tip!

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Rod » 17 Feb 2018, 00:34

“Waste” put to good use - great job

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Malc2098 » 17 Feb 2018, 10:46

Rod wrote:“Waste” put to good use - great job

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Thanks, Rod.

All the photos early in the thread have gone, due to fotobucket, but I smashed the wall up and used that for the blinding layer.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby 9fingers » 17 Feb 2018, 11:24

Malc2098 wrote:
All the photos early in the thread have gone, due to fotobucket,


Malc, You can bring your photos back from the dead. I've done the first few for you.

Edit the file link for each photo to replace "jpg" with "jpg~original"

I've no idea how it works but seems to fix photos on Many of Photobuckets servers (but not all).
The server that holds your pic seems to be susceptible to this fix.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby Malc2098 » 17 Feb 2018, 11:34

Not sure how to do that, Bob. Where is the link to change?
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Power supply)

Postby 9fingers » 17 Feb 2018, 11:41

Use the edit button on each errant post. Make the change and submit. You can also preview to see if it will work before submitting.
It's a bit tedious but if you copy jpg~original you should be able to select jpg and press paste et voila!

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