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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 23 Sep 2017, 20:57

Andyp wrote:That's cool to see the log that your cladding will come from. I bet you would help them mill it given the chance.



I told them I'd be quite happy to sit there all day watching them work!! :D


And the smell...............!
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 03 Oct 2017, 08:45

It's arrived!!!



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Well, I tried everything to rotate this image, scaled it down etc. No Luck. Sorry if you get neck ache!

Edit: Sorted for you Malc - however I deleted the wrong photo as not needed. Please can you upload IMG_1378.jpg again ? :oops: :oops:

Loads of prep work to do now. I've got to carry down the 5.5s from the roadway at the back. Mock up a profile of the cladding. Cut and fit all the corner details based on the profile. Bring out the door and window liners to meet the profile.

And then start painting it all! Before any of it goes up.

BTW, it's still quite wet. Is it OK to paint with Barn Paint while still wet from the tree?
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby timothyedoran » 03 Oct 2017, 11:55

Photos up the right way for me now. Did someone do some magic.

Cladding is looking really good. It's going to look really nice.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby 9fingers » 03 Oct 2017, 12:04

timothyedoran wrote:Photos up the right way for me now. Did someone do some magic.

Cladding is looking really good. It's going to look really nice.

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Yes, Iwaved my magic wand and left a note to say so too :lol:
Shame was I deleted Malc's other photo of the loaded trailer in the process :oops:

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby the bear » 03 Oct 2017, 13:59

Malc
I've painted Bedec barn paint on wet wood before (ie freshly tannalised) and not had any sort of problem years down the line.
I don't think I've commented on your build before but like others regularly keep up to date, great job, keep it up.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 03 Oct 2017, 16:46

Arriving this morning from the Sawmills.

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Thanks for waving the magic wand and thanks all for the kind comments.

I've not been out there for just over a week due to a bad back; put something out mowing the lawn. Well, that's my story!

Managed a couple of hours yesterday putting more ceiling up, but that put a load on my shoulders and back again!
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 04 Oct 2017, 14:01

I've been trying to get my head round the corner details for the cladding, with the help of MikeG's and Dan's threads, before I set up the TS for ripping up the correct size of corner batten.

I think I've got it, so I made up a profile for one side of a corner.

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I measured how far the main boards stood out from their counter batten (not the bottom two, because they're kicked out for drainage purposes) and the added that to the thickness of the counter batten round the corner - the battens are 25mm thick, the FE boards stand 40mm proud at the thickest, so the corner vertical board has to be 65mm wide.

Having ripped one up, and mocked up a profile round the other side, this was the result.

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I know I haven't got the bottom of the corner batten sorted, but I will do when I put it up so it covers the DPM and arris neatly.

And just to see if it was the same cross section as my skecthup drawing, I tried to look down from the top. I think it was right.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Mike G » 04 Oct 2017, 19:36

The attention to this detail is well worth it. You won't regret the bit of extra work doing it right.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 08 Oct 2017, 17:49

Backwards and forwards to Mike's thread to see how to get this bit right.

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I cut about 8 different wedges in about half a degree increments. 10.5 worked out about right.

The on to rout the drip channel in the bottom board.

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18 metres of drip channel routed!

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40 something wedges cut. Painting starts tomorrow.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Andyp » 09 Oct 2017, 07:09

You sem to have all the Ps covered. PPPPPP.
I do not think therefore I do not am.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 09 Oct 2017, 16:59

French Grey seems to be popular on this forum!

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Andyp » 09 Oct 2017, 17:11

Looks like one or two French curves on those boards too.
I do not think therefore I do not am.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 09 Oct 2017, 17:53

Those are sags, honest! It's the camera angle.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Tusses » 09 Oct 2017, 18:01

don't forget to give the ends a good soaking with paint ;)
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby timothyedoran » 09 Oct 2017, 18:06

Looking really good

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 09 Oct 2017, 18:10

Tusses wrote:don't forget to give the ends a good soaking with paint ;)



Thanks. I haven't forgotten. The ends aren't square, but once I've squared them and cut them to length, they'll get a good soaking then.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 09 Oct 2017, 18:11

timothyedoran wrote:Looking really good

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Mike G » 09 Oct 2017, 20:46

Great stuff Malcolm. I watching......... ;)
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 10 Oct 2017, 17:29

Just over half a day till it rained just now to get the wedges at the right height, level, fixed, fitted insect mesh, bottom board measured and cut, marked and drilled for screws and then fitted with the help of Mission Control holding the other end!!

On Facebook, my friends have said I'm on a 'journey' like they say on Strictly. One of my so called friends said, 'Yes, like one of those little Himalaya railways!'. He's about to be unfriended!

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby timothyedoran » 10 Oct 2017, 19:27

Hi Malcolm. Can I see a close up of what you have done around the windows please.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 11 Oct 2017, 10:02

timothyedoran wrote:Hi Malcolm. Can I see a close up of what you have done around the windows please.

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Hi Tim,

If I take a step back first. When I build the walls with he frames, the door and window liners were the same size (95x45) as the frame components. That meant they were flush. I hadn't thought that far forward as to hoe that would interact with the cladding etc. Perhaps I should have pursued that with the Sketchup modelling.

So, while I'm trying to work out how to construct the corner details, it becomes blindingly obvious that I need to sort out the door and window reveals, too.

Having calculated how far out the corner detail must protrude to enable the cladding to butt up to, I then decided that door and window reveals needed to protrude by at least the same amount.

In the case of the doors, I had some rafter timber left over, I always over ordered, 145x45, and unscrewed the 95x45 door liners and tried to replace them with the 145x45, but they still didn't protrude far enough. So I backed that with some 25x50 ripped down to 45mm.

The verticals are very securely screwed because they will have to take the load of the doors via the hinges. The horizontal at the top has been shaped so that if rain should fall on the top, then it will flow down and off the front.

I then ripped some 95x45 to a depth that when screwed to the window liner, they protruded the same as the doors. I stopped them at the bottom of the sill, so the cladding can continue under the window, but I took them up to the rafter, so I will have to fit a separate cladding length over the window.

HTH.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 13 Oct 2017, 15:59

Me and my mate got some serious claddin' done today! No 'G'!

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Jimmy Mack » 14 Oct 2017, 13:31

I've not caught up with your build for ages Malc ( it's been a busy time).

You've progressed loads, and you'll be in it soon! The cladding was my favourite stage.

Excellent stuff, Very neat roof work :eusa-clap:
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 14 Oct 2017, 15:45

Jimmy Mack wrote:I've not caught up with your build for ages Malc ( it's been a busy time).

You've progressed loads, and you'll be in it soon! The cladding was my favourite stage.

Excellent stuff, Very neat roof work :eusa-clap:



Thanks, Jim. Too kind!

It's slow progress, really. My mate can only get over about 1 day a fortnight, and my arthritis takes such a hammering, I have to do one day on, one day off!

The cladding is satisfying.

Anyway, Gents.

Talking of cladding, we took about a half our each on the first two, until we got into a rhythm, then it was about 10 to 15 minutes each.

To be honest, I couldn't get on with the crucifix, as much as I wanted to. The rest of the cladding I will be fitting on my own, but the longest lengths will be 3.5m and not nearly so heavy as the 5.5s.

So, lying half awake for most of the night, I came up with this.

It can reference off the bottom of the most recent fixed board which should be level. It can hang, screwed, from a counter batten and can support the next board. I know I put two of them on it, but I think that might be a bit ambitious.

OK, as you get close to the eaves, you'll have to revert to other methods, but I hope I can get up a wall with a couple of these.

Any helpful comments, please.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby RogerS » 14 Oct 2017, 15:56

Excellent progress, Malc. Just wondered why you were screwing the cladding on. I'd have been tempted to hire a Finishing Paslode or similar.
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