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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Mike G » 08 Nov 2017, 19:12

:eusa-clap: Yay!!
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Andyp » 08 Nov 2017, 19:43

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Andyp wrote:Well done. Deserves more than a cuppa. :obscene-drinkingcheers:

That odd coloured brick is a bit of a distraction though. :)


That is one of the periscope air-bricks - pay attention m'sieur :lol:


I knew that really but from a distance it looks like an odd brick.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 08 Nov 2017, 21:04

Keep up! :)
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Phil » 11 Nov 2017, 07:00

Malc, that is really looking very smart Sir! :eusa-clap:
A building to be proud of and put your name to it. :D

Looks like you will be making Santa stuff soon.

A nice carved or scrollsawed board to hang next to the door “Malc’s Cave – my workshop, my rules”

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Cladding time)

Postby Malc2098 » 11 Nov 2017, 15:40

Phil, that's kind of you to say.

My SIL has already found me a plaque!

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I have to be gentle with it, though. It's plaster!

I don't think I'l be making Santa stuff this year. I've got two sets of doors to make and hang, a subject I now understand that you are an expert in, then I have to provide power. After that I have connect the guttering to the soakaway by digging the underground pipes, and after that Phase 2 starts.

Phase 2 is the intersecting roof over the doors covering a deck leading out from those doors.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Malc2098 » 16 Nov 2017, 17:32

Well now that the whole of the cladding has been painted and almost everything is weather proof, I've knocked up some temporary doors out of 19mm OSB and a framework of 50x25 for hinge screws etc. to bite into.

Now I'd like some advice. I'd like to do the hinges like MikeG's, i.e. using galvanised tee strap hinges, but bent/cranked so the top of the tee is on the inside face of the frame and the crank tee tail is on the inside face of the door and only the pivot is visible on the outside.

The only trouble is I have no metalworking kit; no vice, no anvil. I tried cold bending the hinge in the old ww vice in my garage and ended up with a radius.... well it was huge.

How can I cold bend the hinges, consistently accurately, 6 per pair of doors (two pairs of doors), please?
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Deejay » 16 Nov 2017, 17:48

Hello Malcolm

Two bits of angle iron across the tops of the jaws.

Put the hinge between the angle iron 'inserts'.

Hit with hammer until the correct shape.

Any good?

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby 9fingers » 16 Nov 2017, 17:54

Bear in mind that it is quite likely that the galvanising may well flake off in the region of the bend.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Mike G » 16 Nov 2017, 18:59

I did mine between a couple of bits of wood in my woodworking vice. I probably found something a bit harder than pine (there's usually quite a lot of oak kicking around here). Frankly, a bit of a radius isn't important: you just let that into the door edge with a few seconds of chiseling.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Malc2098 » 16 Nov 2017, 21:04

Thanks, Gents.

With a bit of searching through the local free paper, there's a one man backstreet fabricator in the town. I'll see if he's got a bending press, and if not, ask him to sell me a couple of short lengths of angle iron.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Mike G » 16 Nov 2017, 23:08

Nah, that's overdoing it. You can bend it in a Workmate. You could bend it over a scaffold board with a clamp and a bit of scrap (and a hammer). Honestly, it's simple, crude, 30 second job.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Coley » 17 Nov 2017, 06:59

How about just getting some of those security pins that go on the hinge side ?
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Mike G » 17 Nov 2017, 08:47

The only work if there is some thickness to your doors. A typical boarded workshop door just doesn't have enough beef.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Coley » 17 Nov 2017, 08:53

Perhaps if you wangle it so it was in the same position as the rails ?
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Any old piece of metal would do the same thing. Just thought it might prevent the galvanise breaking off as per the previous comment.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby timothyedoran » 17 Nov 2017, 10:25

Coley wrote:Perhaps if you wangle it so it was in the same position as the rails ?
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Any old piece of metal would do the same thing. Just thought it might prevent the galvanise breaking off as per the previous comment.

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Wasn't the breaking galvanising talking about the galvanising flaking off rather than the entire hinge?

Malcolm, let's see your bending attempt.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Malc2098 » 17 Nov 2017, 17:39

Well, it turned out nice today!

If I am going to huff and puff over those hinges, then I want them in the right place. So before any bending, I made a mock up of the door/frame/hinge assembly just so that when I do the six in anger, I know I will have got them in the right place.

So after a bit a moving around with loadsa screw holes to get it in the right place, I put it together and it opened beautifully to 180 degrees!! Sorry. No Photos, the phone was indoors and with the brilliant sun, I wanted to get on with this planning. But......there was a gap between the door and the frame the size of the thickness of the hinger pivot; 13mm to be precise. And after putting all that insulation in, I don't want any retained warmth escaping at a rate of knots through that gap.

So out came the new toy - the MAKITA RT0700CX2 !! I love it.

I quickly set up some stops and routed a 6mm housing on frame and door and this was the result.

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And 180 degrees open ---

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So, I set up all six hinges on the doors acting as a workbench, clamped the down with a 50x25 caul and using the caul as the straight edge scribed a line on them all in the centre of the bend, so at least I could be consistent as to where the bend should be.

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Then after a lot of huffing and puffing in the afternoon, this was the result!

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby 9fingers » 17 Nov 2017, 17:53

They look good Malc and as far as I can see, the galvanising has stayed on - in fact they look more like BZP than galv.?

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Coley » 17 Nov 2017, 19:33

9fingers wrote:They look good Malc and as far as I can see, the galvanising has stayed on - in fact they look more like BZP than galv.?

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That's what I was thinking Bob. Smart job though. Nice and consistent !

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby timothyedoran » 17 Nov 2017, 19:33

They look great. Good sharp bends.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Mike G » 17 Nov 2017, 20:36

Damn sight neater than mine....... ;)
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Malc2098 » 17 Nov 2017, 21:06

Well, I'm surprised nobody's rumbled me!

The huffing and puffing this afternoon was me trolling all over Mid-Devon 'cos the little man down the town has packed up and his unit has been taken over by illegal immigrants who wanted to valet my car!

I ended up just outside Cullompton, and for the price of topping up their coffee club, the nice man at a specialist performance auto exhaust fabricators did these in a couple of minutes flat!

So if anyone needs a performance exhaust specially made, pm me and I'll pass on the company details.

Anyway, I screwed them back on the model and hey presto!

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby ScotlandtheDave » 17 Nov 2017, 21:31

I’m disappointed Malcolm, I thought your model would have had all square edges...

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Andyp » 17 Nov 2017, 21:43

Great result Malc and well worth the effort.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Malc2098 » 18 Nov 2017, 10:43

Thank you, gents, but as you now know, I cannot take the credit for the metal working, only the idea of how to get them done.

As for square edges...I used some left over rafter stock. Well not exactly left over, 'cut wrongly and had to get some more' stock. But I was then able to use those ex-rafters to provide the deeper door frame.

Time to try and hang the doors today.
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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (On to the doors)

Postby Andyp » 01 Dec 2017, 13:29

Are those doors hung yet Malc?
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