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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 16:01
by Malc2098
At last with the help of my good mate, we eventually got the four settle stones, or whatever they're called, located and in place there was quite a bit of heaving and puffing, but they're all level and all in line and only 5mm out diagonally. :D

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That legendary blind man would be pleased to see that bubble!
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The Simpson StrongTie concealed post bases are chemically anchored to the stones.
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All noggin ready for the deck boards.
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Anyone spot the deliberate error?! :lol:

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 16:22
by TrimTheKing
Malc2098 wrote:Anyone spot the deliberate error?! :lol:


Would it be, good luck closing that door...? :eusa-whistle: :lol:

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 16:22
by 9fingers
Might be a trifle difficult to close the workshop door?

Bob

Mark beat me to it

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 16:54
by Andyp
No. Surely not.

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 17:27
by 9fingers
My excuse is I was busy woodworking !

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Dovetails cut ready to assemble 6 drawers for a pair of bedside cabinets.

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To go with this my ottoman bed

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Bob

Apologies for the hijack malc

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 17:53
by Malc2098
I’ll forgive yer! Thousands might not. :)

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 17:53
by Andyp
Andyp wrote:No. Surely not.


:oops: oops . What I meant was “ no surely not “ that someone could not make a mistake like that.

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 25 Jun 2019, 19:20
by DaveL
Andyp wrote:
Andyp wrote:No. Surely not.


:oops: oops . What I meant was “ no surely not “ that someone could not make a mistake like that.
Just need to convert the door in a barn style one, problem solved!

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 10:42
by greeno
Change the doors to inward opening?

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 12:06
by Andyp
Or bi-fold

Or sliding.

Better still move the workshop :)

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 13:10
by TrimTheKing
Once he's taken the door off and re-hung it in the right place it will open fine, I guess the issue is just that it was stuck open until then.

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 26 Jun 2019, 13:18
by Malc2098
Some of you boys, if you get any sharper, you'll cut yourselves! :D

Thanks, Mark. :)

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2019, 17:13
by Malc2098
The deck is more or less finished. I'll make some steps in due course and i'll tidy up round the bottom.

Next, I'm going to have a go at a post and beam structure to support the roof. Saddle stones already in.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2019, 18:29
by MY63
Nice work Malcolm

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 05 Jul 2019, 22:22
by TrimTheKing
Looks good mate. You going to paint it the same colour as the shop, stain it, or leave as is?

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 06 Jul 2019, 09:45
by Malc2098
MY63 wrote:Nice work Malcolm


Thanks, Michael.

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 06 Jul 2019, 09:49
by Malc2098
TrimTheKing wrote:Looks good mate. You going to paint it the same colour as the shop, stain it, or leave as is?


Thanks, Mark. Good question! I'm minded to leave it as, but won't make decision till the post and beam roof structure is finished. The timber structure is local douglas fir which looks so nice, (it's stored round the back of the 'shop at the moment) that I'm minded to leave that as it is, sawn. The roof sheathing will be OSB, covered in the same black metal tile effect the 'shop has. So the OSB will be visible inside, along with all the timber and hopefully a few of my joints..

If I were to paint the deck, I think I would not choose a wood stain, but maybe a neutral grey or something like that.

But Mission Control may have other ideas! :)

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 12 Jul 2019, 15:23
by Malc2098
I've just had a go at my first framing corner joint. Needs more practice.

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The actual joints will eventually be pegged.

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 12 Jul 2019, 15:27
by Andyp
Looks pretty snug to me. Is it necessary for the post to have a through tenon?

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 12 Jul 2019, 15:57
by 9fingers
Andyp wrote:Looks pretty snug to me. Is it necessary for the post to have a through tenon?



Seconded. I think it could be a route in for rain/rot.

Bob

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 12 Jul 2019, 15:57
by Malc2098
Andyp wrote:Looks pretty snug to me. Is it necessary for the post to have a through tenon?


Thanks, Andy. It doesn't show up in the photo, but the post/beam m&t is a bit twisted.

I'm not sure about the need for a through tenon, but it was easier to manufacture than the stopped one.

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 12 Jul 2019, 16:01
by Malc2098
Good call, Bob.

I'll try both stopped M&Ts on the next try.

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Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 12 Jul 2019, 16:17
by 9fingers
I think I'd be looking to chamfer the top faces of the horizontals just a tad to prevent water lying on the surface.
Depending on how much you trim off, the mortice for the uprights might need to be a little shallower than currently.

Bob

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 12 Jul 2019, 16:42
by Malc2098
Thanks, Bob.

This will be the frame for supporting the roof over the decking. The sheathing and tiling will be exactly the same as the main workshop roof. So I do hope the joints will be under cover. However, I will go for stopped M&Ts in the joints. Makes sense. I might not need to chamfer, though. The beams will be taking the rafters.

Re: Malcolm's Garden Workshop (Phase 2 begins!)

PostPosted: 12 Jul 2019, 16:46
by 9fingers
Malc2098 wrote:Thanks, Bob.

This will be the frame for supporting the roof over the decking. The sheathing and tiling will be exactly the same as the main workshop roof. So I do hope the joints will be under cover. However, I will go for stopped M&Ts in the joints. Makes sense. I might not need to chamfer, though. The beams will be taking the rafters.


In that case I agree, no need for chamfer and indeed preferably flat to take the rafters.

Bob