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DeWalt Nailers - questions

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DeWalt Nailers - questions

Postby tabs » 11 Aug 2018, 11:25

I needed a nailer as I'm starting the framing on my workshop next week. I decided to go for Dewalt kit with a First and Second Fix nailer in it as it wasn't a lot more than just buying a First Fix nailer. I'm now having second thoughts after reading a few reviews that said although the Second Fix nailer was great the First Fix one keeps jamming and didn,t always drive the nail head all the way in. There were other reviews that seemed to be ok.
Its not too late to cancel so I'm interested in your thoughts.


This is the kit:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01E9FSWKG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Has anyone used these or other First Fix DeWalt nailers? What do you think? Should I just get a Plaslode and if so which one(I'm new to Nailers so basically know nothing)

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Re: DeWalt Nailers - questions

Postby Rod » 11 Aug 2018, 14:44

I used screws and my Mikita drill so no additional expense. Very quiet too.

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Re: DeWalt Nailers - questions

Postby RogerS » 11 Aug 2018, 16:40

I wish I could advise you more. When I renovated an old house a few years back, my philosophy was to buy the kit I needed and then sell it on eBay. One of those items was a Paslode and it was OK apart from you having to get it square on otherwise the safety mechanism wouldn't let it fire. But I suspect that the same goes for all the other makes.

Sometimes reviews that are negative are down to the owner chucking the tool into a pile of dust on the floor and then expecting it to work fine. If I bought something new and it jammed then I'd send it back under warranty. Not a lot of help though if you need it the next day !

Reading the reviews on Amazon, the negative review by a carpenter speaks volumes about the 1st fix gun and on that basis if it were me I'd avoid the DW 1st fix.

If you went the Paslode route I'd not bother with the ones that do battery and gas...after all, you're not going to use it that much again are you ?
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Re: DeWalt Nailers - questions

Postby Doug » 11 Aug 2018, 17:34

I’ve got a DeWalt compressed air first fix nailer & I like it a lot, it did take a little getting used to to get the nails to drive all the way in & im guessing that would be the same with the battery machine but once I got the hang of things I’ve not looked back.

Personally I prefer air driven guns & doubt the 4 guns I have have cost as much as one battery gun & whilst I realise you need to buy a compressor they are so useful in the shop for other things that I’d have one even if i didn’t have nail guns.
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Re: DeWalt Nailers - questions

Postby RogerS » 11 Aug 2018, 17:38

Yup...I'd second that about a compressor. It doesn't have to be massive one. I have an old Clarke Bandit that I've had for years. I have a couple of Axminster small nailers but I reckon it would drive a more powerful nailer.
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Re: DeWalt Nailers - questions

Postby HappyHacker » 11 Aug 2018, 18:01

I have a little Bostich compressor and a few air nailers. I used the first fix one on a large fencing project with no problems. The smaller ones and stapler all work well. The compressor was able to support a decent rate of nailing with the first fix nailer, certainly faster than I needed to go. I have no experience of battery nailers so cannot comment on them. I have a little electric Rapesco which is ok for small jobs.
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Re: DeWalt Nailers - questions

Postby tabs » 16 Aug 2018, 12:09

I did think about getting an air nailer but I've a few jobs coming up where I would need a portable one so I've bit the bullet and decided to go with the DeWalt. It was delivered today in fact.

I need to buy some nail packs now but can only find them in packs of about 2000 which since I' going to need a few sizes for just the shed build is going to cost quite a bit. Does anyone know of anyplace where I can get smaller packs? The 90m packs of 2000 ring shank nails were costing around £40 to £50.

My timber is 4x2 for the walls and 6x2 for the roof so I'm assuming I'd need the 90mm?
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Re: DeWalt Nailers - questions

Postby MJ80 » 16 Aug 2018, 14:12

I've got the Paslode first fix gas gun, I have had it since I started out. It does what it needs to do, sometimes the heads won't go all the way in, especially with the long ring shank nails. I keep thinking of selling it as I don't do much first fix anymore, but it has paid for itself that many times over I couldn't part with it. I also have the old Dewalt second fix battery gun (I am assuming that there is a new version now), it is brilliant, so much nicer that the old festool pinner I used to have. In the workshop I have a bostik pinner off the compressor, its great as it can take really short pins.
Before the Paslode there was a lot of hammering.
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Re: DeWalt Nailers - questions

Postby tabs » 17 Aug 2018, 16:33

I did some searching on the forum and found a thread where Firmahold nails were mentioned in a good light and have managed to locate an online site that sells them in boxes of 1100 which is more like the quantites I need atm at the following prices:

FirmaHold 3.1x90 Straight Shank / Galv *NO GAS* CFGR90 (Paslode compatible) 1100 nails per box 1 £19.57
4995380 FirmaHold 2.8x50 Ring / FirmaGalv *NO GAS* CFGR50 (Paslode compatible) 1100 nails per box
£11.32

I couldn't find any Ring Shank 90mm at those quantites though. Will I be OK using the straight shank for the 4x2 framing on my workshop?

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Re: DeWalt Nailers - questions

Postby MJ80 » 18 Aug 2018, 10:23

They should be fine. Apparently if I remember our site plasloded training the blue stuff on the nails acts as a lubricant when the nail is fired and then has adhesive properties as it cools.
I often use the rawlplug nails, they get the job done.
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