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Re: Stool

Postby Malc2098 » 17 Sep 2019, 16:56

Nice.
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Re: Stool

Postby Andyp » 17 Sep 2019, 17:22

Woodbloke wrote:
DaveL wrote:Now that is beginning to look very nice.

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Thanks Dave; a lot of refining still to do but it's coming along. I've 'only' :D got three to make in ash after this prototype - Rob


You are making an odd number Rob?
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Re: Stool

Postby Woodbloke » 18 Sep 2019, 09:29

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You are making an odd number Rob?

I'm having one and I asked SWIMBO if she'd like one as well; affirmative. Then in a fit of generosity after a couple of glasses of vino collapso, I WotsAp'd No.1 son in Londres and asked if he'd like one; another affirmative.

A couple of weeks ago, I bought quite a lot of decent 40mmish thick ash from Yandles at the show and have already rough cut the legs for conditioning under the bench, but the thing that's taken up quite a lot of 'folding' is all the stuff I've needed to buy to do the carving and eventual sanding - Rob
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Re: Stool

Postby Andyp » 18 Sep 2019, 11:42

I hope you offered one to No 1 daughter :)
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Re: Stool

Postby Woodbloke » 18 Sep 2019, 14:40

Andyp wrote:I hope you offered one to No 1 daughter :)


Shhhhhh :D - Rob
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Re: Stool

Postby Rod » 18 Sep 2019, 22:55

I’m very confused with all this No 1 business

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Re: Stool

Postby TrimTheKing » 19 Sep 2019, 12:51

Rod wrote:I’m very confused with all this No 1 business

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It just means firstborn, not preference. Well, it could also be preference depending on who's saying it... :lol:
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Re: Stool

Postby Woodbloke » 20 Sep 2019, 18:37

The prototype was finished this afternoon and the finish was left from the gouge and rasp, but the concept appears to work;

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...and I only broke through into a dowel hole on one of the rear back support rails;

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...so on the actual project this dowel will be made 20 instead of the current 30mm. Phill Edwards (Phillyplanes) suggested the inspired idea of gauging the depth of the steel dowel by using a powerful rare earth magnet and it does surprisingly work very well.

Encouragingly it appears to even....

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...be quite comfy to sit on :D - Rob
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Re: Stool

Postby Malc2098 » 20 Sep 2019, 18:49

:text-bravo:
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Re: Stool

Postby DaveL » 20 Sep 2019, 19:51

Nice, but that seat reminds me of Noel Edmonds
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Re: Stool

Postby Simon_M » 21 Sep 2019, 21:45

In the original chair, is the grain orientated in different directions for the upper/lower seat? It looks like the upper seat has the grain through to the ground (vertical) and the underneath is across (horizontal)? What's are the advantages/disadvantages of doing it like that?
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Re: Stool

Postby Woodbloke » 22 Sep 2019, 10:25

Simon_M wrote:In the original chair, is the grain orientated in different directions for the upper/lower seat? It looks like the upper seat has the grain through to the ground (vertical) and the underneath is across (horizontal)? What's are the advantages/disadvantages of doing it like that?

You're correct Simon; in the proper stool(s) that I'll be starting shortly, the grain is orientated through 90deg. No inherent advantage or disadvantage, just the way it was done in the original - Rob
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Re: Stool

Postby Rod » 22 Sep 2019, 12:17

How deep is it - it looks like a perching stool from the photos?

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Re: Stool

Postby Woodbloke » 22 Sep 2019, 12:40

Rod wrote:How deep is it - it looks like a perching stool from the photos?

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Here's the original...

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...so yes, not a seat you'd care to take root on tipping down pints on Friday night :lol: - Rob
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Re: Stool

Postby Malc2098 » 22 Sep 2019, 13:19

This is only an estimate guess, Rob, but I reckon the model's bum is smaller than yours. :?
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Re: Stool

Postby Woodbloke » 22 Sep 2019, 14:22

Malc2098 wrote:This is only an estimate guess, Rob, but I reckon the model's bum is smaller than yours. :?

Cheek to cheek comparison? :lol: :lol: - Rob
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Re: Stool

Postby Malc2098 » 22 Sep 2019, 14:37

:lol: :lol:
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Re: Stool

Postby Malc2098 » 22 Sep 2019, 14:38

I can remember a time in my former job where the official minimum European bum size for fitting seats in the back of a van was 14".
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Re: Stool

Postby Jonathan » 22 Sep 2019, 14:55

Rob (woodbloke).....nice chair.....would I of met you at a Festool roadshow in Malaga?....if its not you.....you look like the guy I met.

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Re: Stool

Postby Woodbloke » 22 Sep 2019, 16:07

Malc2098 wrote:I can remember a time in my former job where the official minimum European bum size for fitting seats in the back of a van was 14".

Front to back depth of the seat is 350mm which in old money equates to about 14'', but to the point on the seat rest where it touches the small of the back it's about 340mm. Width is 370mm but the profile is tapered, so that's across the middle; big enough for my ar$e and that skinny model's :lol: :lol: (but not at the same time :lol: )
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...for all three seats; now they just have to be mixed n'matched to obtain the sizes needed, jointed and then lobbed into the vac bag to form a large chunk of ash 80mm thick.

Jonathan wrote:Rob (woodbloke).....nice chair.....would I of met you at a Festool roadshow in Malaga?....if its not you.....you look like the guy I met.

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Re: Stool

Postby Jonathan » 22 Sep 2019, 17:23

Ok Rob......guess I met your double.....what where the chances of him also being a woody one.....

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Re: Stool

Postby Woodbloke » 24 Sep 2019, 15:09

The first chunk of ash for a seat is out the bag...

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...and the second one is cooking for the next couple of hours

Legs have also...

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...been machined to 50mm square all round, which gives me a bit more material to play with; thems on the prototype were only 40mm square which was a bit tight when it came to do the shaping - Rob
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Re: Stool

Postby Simon_M » 25 Sep 2019, 14:38

Woodbloke wrote:The first chunk of ash for a seat is out the bag...

Are you the planing the outside edges of the ash (and especially "knocking" the outside corners off the “cube”) before putting it in the vacuum bag – to minimise the risk of damage to the "expensive" bag?
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Re: Stool

Postby Woodbloke » 25 Sep 2019, 15:38

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Woodbloke wrote:The first chunk of ash for a seat is out the bag...

Are you the planing the outside edges of the ash (and especially "knocking" the outside corners off the “cube”) before putting it in the vacuum bag – to minimise the risk of damage to the "expensive" bag?

No need as the job goes inside a large 125 micron thick ordinary plastic bag (prevents the base board being covered in 'squeeze out'), then there's a layer of 600 micron offcuts on top before the main bag itself (again 600 micron), so there's 725 microns of plastic protecting the main polyurethane (not vinyl) bag - Rob
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Re: Stool

Postby Woodbloke » 08 Oct 2019, 12:28

Some progress being made on this job though using the Ax 5 tooth tct cutter in the angle grinder is incredibly messy (look what's on the p/t bed):

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The 'oles have been drilled in the blocks (but not yet the legs) and after the Ax cutter there's a lot of work with some Ax 'Rider' gouges, which are really rather good and take wicked edge from the leather honing wheels on the Tormek :D Even so, this ash is incredibly tough and difficult to sculpt; I'm going to use a selection of Saburr rotary burrs on the fiddly bits round the backrest as it's definitely the easiest way of doing the shaping.

After the grinding and gouging, I've used a 40g flap sander( :shock: ) in the angle grinder to do all the preliminary smoothing with a set of rasps from WH to smooth out the edge profile to the pencil line, just above the red felt tip grinding line. Slow and messy work though - Rob
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