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Brass knobs

AndyT

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I've not had much opportunity to play on my lovely old Barnes 4½ treadle powered lathe for a while. It's a fine old machine, at least a century old, with plenty of life left in it. There are few concessions to making things easy for the user, but a bit of inconvenience is no barrier to someone like me, who's more interested in the pleasure of making something than just having the thing in the minimum time. Here's a general view of it, for anyone not acquainted with the joys of bread and cheese powered metalworking:


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So I was pleased when Steve Maskrey got in touch about some non-standard knobs he needed for some of his jigs. As you can see from the sketch he sent, there's nothing odd about them, but they are definitely more robust than the ordinary Chinese offerings from ebay etc.

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So, with today a rainy day ideal for gentle exercise indoors, I had a look in my box of bits of brass and found some suitable bar stock. I'd only got about 30mm of the right diameter, but that is enough for the first two knobs. I fitted in the three jaw chuck, drilled the centre and then deepened the hole to 16mm, 5mm diameter.

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To prevent any wobbling from poor support, I put a tailstock centre into the hole, then turned the diameter down to the requested 21mm. I then marked off where the shoulder should come, 6mm from the end and turned it down until it looked about right.
The cutting tools are all holding bits of square HSS bar, so it's easy to reshape cutters to suit different cuts on different metals. This brass is nice and tolerant of the cutting edge geometry and let me get a reasonable shape from the natural curve of the cutter.

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I parted off for the length required.

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I enjoy knurling. This is just a cheap imported tool from Chronos but I like the way it works. Because it clamps above and below the work there's no great strain on anything. The knurls seem to do their magic and join up tidily. I did apply plenty of thin oil. It's best to engage back gearing for this job, which is a simple question of slackening off and shifting a little oily lug inside one of the gear wheels, and shifting a lever to engage the extra gears.

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With that done, I tapped the hole I drilled earlier, M6 thread. This is just by hand really, but closing up the tailstock lets me make sure I start square.


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As it was a blind hole, I followed up with a bottoming tap - sorry for the blurry photo.


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With that done, I parted off as much as I could, and sawed the last little bit. A quick rub on some progressive grades of silicon carbide paper removed all evidence.

I also chamfered the corners, either with a lathe tool or just with a file.

Here's the first one

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and in what seemed a much shorter time, a twin.

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Clever stuff. Do you have to think about what your feet are doing? Too fast, too slow?
It's pedal with one foot at a time and stand on the other. (The Barnes company also made their lathes with a tractor style seat and a pair of bicycle pedals, but I don't think they sold so well over here.)

You can adjust the belt in a choice of three different pulley pairs, eg to give high revs of the work for not so fast leg movements. I did most of this job in the middle position. Heavier cuts would need more power input. It's all very forgiving and soon just becomes what you do, without needing to think about it too much.
 
Nicely done Andy

Knurling is the only lathe process that increases the diameter of the job; everything else decreases it (or so I was told when I was an apprentice in the 60's) - Rob
Yes, that makes sense. You're exploiting the ductility of the metal, pushing material from one position to another without splitting it off.
 
I hadn’t appreciated the size. I assumed it was treadle sewing machine size and that you would be sitting.
 
Day two brought a slight change of approach. I don't have any more round bar in the same size, except for an odd cast lump which refused to machine nicely, but I do have plenty of 19mm hex stock, which Steve says is acceptable. I'll let the pictures tell the story, which is very similar to yesterday's. Progress seemed a lot quicker now I have some idea of what to do in what order, and as it was yesterday, making the second one was quicker than making the first one.

First, I cut a bit of bar to the right length. I don't do enough metalwork to justify a separate bench, but this compromise with the vice on a board and batten is ideal. Handy enough, with some control of shavings, especially if I vacuum properly afterwards.

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I wrapped the piece in masking tape to avoid too much marring from the chuck jaws and faced off one end.

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Then I drilled the centre

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and drilled out to 5mm, 16mm deep.

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To shape the end, I just used a round tipped cutter, taking very light cuts, feeling my way with cutting across the width and along the length, until the tip was about the same diameter as the others.

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Then tapped the hole.
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On the other end of the knob, I wanted the transition from hex to round to look nice. The convex tool I had been using would be no good to make a nice convex surface. I needed a "form tool". Fortunately, one of my purchases of something else included a nicely modified file, with a selection of different sized curves on it. All I needed to do was add a block of steel at the right height, lay the file on it and feed it into the work.

This being an internet forum, there's space if anyone wants it for a digression into the different hardening and tempering needed in a hand held file and a lathe cutting tool, with all due warnings about the dangers of disintegrating metal and red hot flying fragments.

But this is about as gentle as it gets. Soft brass, a small scale and feeling my way carefully. It worked very well. Here's the modified file

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and here it is in action, boldly resisting all those shattering forces:

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And that was about it. All I had to do was to work through the grits on some silicon carbide paper:

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and the job was done. Two knurled knobs and two that fit a 19mm spanner. Steve, I hope they work ok for you; they're in the post already. :)

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When I say "noted".......beware! I shall remember this thread when I next happen upon a project that needs a little brass-work. :)
 
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