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One way to move heavy things

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The basic unit, I needed 2 lots of 4 plus a less high set to obtain the correct height of the truck I was loading into, the machine weighs about 250 kg.

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This shows a 10’ plank shoved through the machine, I just didn’t fancy pushing up against the cutter block and lift up bed section so I trapped it under the platten with another balancing short plank on the other side of the rise and fall column, don’t think I’ve damaged anything.
Shows how the units are used to raise the machine, each of these was about 6” high, it was extremely east to push down or lift the plank

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And up she goes
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Shows the top less high section, also shows the black lines to help my assistant line the units up.
This also is the wheels going back on for the combination machine to be trundled into the truck.
Very important are the two bits of 2x4 screwed onto the sides of the top units, this fastens the two piles together, stops the ply top dropping as it’s trundled, and they help support between the units and the back of the truck.

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And in she goes!

IMG_2898.jpegMy not so little helper at the other end of the journey, obviously it’s just a reversal of the building process, and thank goodness it all went surprisingly easily.
This method of raising each end at a time I borrowed from Wally Wallington, a crazy American who has recreated a full size concrete Stonehenge, and erected it on his own! Available on YouTube.
 

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Great job! I would have been concerned about using bottom of the thicknesser table as a pivot point for the lever.

I took a more drastic approach when I moved my SCM SC2C from the garage to the basement. The sliding deck and auxiliary tables were easy enough to move, but the main cabinet was still too heavy to safely move. Disassembling it to three main sections made it much easier for my wife and I to move the saw down the stairs.

The chassis on the left is completely empty and is the lightest of the group. The big lump in the middle is a 100KG concrete block used as a counterweight for the sliding deck and outrigger. The cast iron table strapped to the cart is the main section with the motor and trunnion and is almost as heavy as the concrete block.

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Assembly was easy after locating the chassis and building a temporary hoist frame. The saw is placed on a 19mm dense plywood platform with rubber isolation matting between the floor tiles and the plywood. The concrete counterweight goes in first.

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Concrete counterweight in place.

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Cast iron table is next. I had to support it just above the mounting tabs so I could connect the wiring and safety switches.

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Fully assembled, commissioned, and ready for use.

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I later removed the overhead shroud because it was constantly in the way and now use the shroud that attaches to the riving knife. I also changed the crosscut fence so it is on the other end of the slider. The OSB on the far wall holds the saw accessories.

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Mike said:
Great job! I would have been concerned about using bottom of the thicknesser table as a pivot point for the lever.

I took a more drastic approach when I moved my SCM SC2C from the garage to the basement. The sliding deck and auxiliary tables were easy enough to move, but the main cabinet was still too heavy to safely move. Disassembling it to three main sections made it much easier for my wife and I to move the saw down the stairs.

The chassis on the left is completely empty and is the lightest of the group. The big lump in the middle is a 100KG concrete block used as a counterweight for the sliding deck and outrigger. The cast iron table strapped to the cart is the main section with the motor and trunnion and is almost as heavy as the concrete block.

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Assembly was easy after locating the chassis and building a temporary hoist frame. The saw is placed on a 19mm dense plywood platform with rubber isolation matting between the floor tiles and the plywood. The concrete counterweight goes in first.

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Concrete counterweight in place.

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Cast iron table is next. I had to support it just above the mounting tabs so I could connect the wiring and safety switches.

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Fully assembled, commissioned, and ready for use.

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I later removed the overhead shroud because it was constantly in the way and now use the shroud that attaches to the riving knife. I also changed the crosscut fence so it is on the other end of the slider. The OSB on the far wall holds the saw accessories.
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RogerS said:
250kg ? 250kg? Hmmmmmmph ! Lightweight :D
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My Dad and I moved my lathe, which weighs 500 kg, into my garage (and then I moved it around in the garage on my own, despite it not having wheels or anything helpful like that). That just involved a trailer, a chain hoist & a lot of careful thinking.
 
Dr.Al said:
My Dad and I moved my lathe, which weighs 500 kg, into my garage (and then I moved it around in the garage on my own, despite it not having wheels or anything helpful like that). That just involved a trailer, a chain hoist & a lot of careful thinking.
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I once saw an advert for a very heavy lathe (1000kg+) for sale that had a loading strap slung around the chuck to move it with a telehandler. It's safe to say the bearings in that machine weren't the same again!

I had to move my 1500kg CVA Lathe the other day, it has specially placed holes in the base casting that you can push a steel bar through and lift by the bars, clever thinking on CVA's part. I only needed to move it away from the wall so I could work on the electrics around the back so I jacked it up with a farmers jack and slid the pallet truck under it, and pulled it away. Felt a bit sketchy because the pallet truck isn't the best, and it wasn't quite centred so had a slight tendency to lean at the headstock end. Moving it the other way is quite easy as you can place scaffold tubes underneath it and just roll it along like the Egyptians.
 
When we built my workshop in the UK, there was a derelict shack of a garage extant on the site. I forget the details now, but somewhere high-up there was a massive RSJ. This was a mining area and lots of people had, ahem, access, to all sorts of industrial materials. Anyway, it had to come down.
We lowered it, in exactly the way you have described, one end, one block, at a time.
My friend Ray was in charge. At the end of it, he said, "Well I've put many an RSJ up, but I've never taken one down before". Now he tells me.
S
 
A Genie lift is a handy helper if you are on your own, mine has been a big help on many occasions this is me unloading my planer thicknesser thankfully only 360kg

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The worse I had to move was my BZB bandsaw at around 860kg, I slept well that night.😖
 
Cabinetman said:
Just curious Roger what does yours weigh, I think probably they are very similar in what they can do.
Mine has a 10” planer and thicknesser a spindle moulder and a. 10” saw with crosscut.
Ian
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Felder state 500kg plus another 60-80kg for the very large power feeder
 
Cabinetman said:
The basic unit, I needed 2 lots of 4 plus a less high set to obtain the correct height of the truck I was loading into, the machine weighs about 250 kg.

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This shows a 10’ plank shoved through the machine, I just didn’t fancy pushing up against the cutter block and lift up bed section so I trapped it under the platten with another balancing short plank on the other side of the rise and fall column, don’t think I’ve damaged anything.
Shows how the units are used to raise the machine, each of these was about 6” high, it was extremely east to push down or lift the plank

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And up she goes
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Shows the top less high section, also shows the black lines to help my assistant line the units up.
This also is the wheels going back on for the combination machine to be trundled into the truck.
Very important are the two bits of 2x4 screwed onto the sides of the top units, this fastens the two piles together, stops the ply top dropping as it’s trundled, and they help support between the units and the back of the truck.

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And in she goes!

View attachment 33006My not so little helper at the other end of the journey, obviously it’s just a reversal of the building process, and thank goodness it all went surprisingly easily.
This method of raising each end at a time I borrowed from Wally Wallington, a crazy American who has recreated a full size concrete Stonehenge, and erected it on his own! Available on YouTube.
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Good idea for loading Ian.How many more trips are needed for your shop equipment and tools?
Must have been a major relief getting it to your new home.
 
duke said:
Good idea for loading Ian.How many more trips are needed for your shop equipment and tools?
Must have been a major relief getting it to your new home.
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Hi, yes thanks it certainly was, the last few bits will fit in the back of our 7 seat Honda, invaluable when you have a lady like mine, 4 poster beds one day 8x4 sheets of plywood the next.
Just spent the last few days planning the workshop walls floor and ceiling, it’s been really interesting getting stuck into the nsulation ,thermal bridging etc
 
Haha, yes, they’ve fitted 34 new windows last week, and AC this week, not a fun job as it involves crawl spaces and finding ways to spirit loads of insulated pipes through under floors and attic areas.
 
Jar944 said:
I've found a pallet jack and a engine hoist to be indispensable for moving, acquiring or selling machinery. Even when you are overloaded on the truck and hoist.
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I've found an engine hoist to be a little low for pulling most stuff out of a pickup truck bed. It works great for lifting things off of trailers though.
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Cabinetman said:
That’s most impressive!
Perhaps I should have looked into that, whereabouts are you Jar?
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Currently in Virginia. I've owned that hoist for 20+ years and three house/shop moves. Its certainly been worth it considering the number of things it's moved.
 
I am hoping that this will be the last workshop I will have to make/fit out but should life throw different dice I will use that method.
As it happens I am going down to Williamsburg in Virginia next week. I’m expecting it to be a lot hotter than here in Boston lol.
 
Cabinetman said:
I am hoping that this will be the last workshop I will have to make/fit out but should life throw different dice I will use that method.
As it happens I am going down to Williamsburg in Virginia next week. I’m expecting it to be a lot hotter than here in Boston lol.
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It should be cooler next week. It's on the mid 80s here now.
 
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