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Roof over existing deck.

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duke

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Started this project this past Monday. The reason for the roof is to keep snow of the deck leading to the side door. I do the winter snow clearing and sometimes can't in a timely manner. Owners are in late eighties and find it hard to shovel the deck, heck so do I.1000002238.jpg1000002194.jpg1000002207.jpg1000002216.jpg1000002223.jpg1000002226.jpg1000002231.jpg1000002232.jpg1000002234.jpg1000002233.jpg
 
The portion of the home to the right under the shed type roof I built in 2009, the garage /studio constructed in 2005 following with the car port extension in 2012.
 

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That's a beautiful location. Looks very Swedish.

I bet you measured the location of the post-foot concrete a few times!
 
Definitely I did Mike, three times. Lol. Funny you mentioned looking like Sweden, my grandmother emigrated from Sweden around 1905. A lot of Finnish and Norwegians also, they tried to pick a geographical local that was similar to the old country. They were given 100 acres and had to put a dwelling up and turn a portion of forest into farm land within a year or they would forfeit. Talk about homesteading, not like the glamours of today.
 
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You're going to have fun at the ends of that new roof where it runs up under the eaves of the existing roof. It looks simple on the drawing........
 
Mike G said:
You're going to have fun at the ends of that new roof where it runs up under the eaves of the existing roof. It looks simple on the drawing........
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You are right, ledger board and rafters next week. I have an idea on how to do it. Messing with the two ends will take longer than the prep for the ledger board.
 
duke said:
Funny you mentioned looking like Sweden, my grandmother emigrated from Sweden around 1905. A lot of Finnish and Norwegians also
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Earlier this year I met a Canadian lady who was on a visit to a small town near to me here in Finland. It turned out that her grandmother and my great-grandmother were born 2 years apart and lived on the same street in a small Gloucestershire village, so must have known each other. It is definitely a small world. What I found odd is that the Canadian lady spoke quite decent Finnish - better than I do by some margin.
 
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Lovely view over the lake.
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The fishing is great, Bass, Pickerel, Pike and the odd Musky. When my cousin and I were young we would be fishing the lake from dawn to dusk. Always gave most of the catch to our grandmothers. They would pan fry the fish on an old wood stove but we had to listen to them talking in Swedish as to who was the better fisherman. Most embarrassing!
 
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Mike G said:
That's a beautiful location. Looks very Swedish.

I bet you measured the location of the post-foot concrete a few times!
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Mike, I used a very straight 2x4 stud with a level to determine my forms and saddle positions. Then used the same stud , placed bottom end on saddle plumbed it up and marked top and bottom of the deck beam. A lot more accurate then a tape measure. Then simply laid the marking stud onto the posts and transferred the marks. Since the existing railing system is to remain, this marking stud was great in determining the portion of railing to remove.

If I removed the existing railing which is at 36" in height I would have to build a new one at 42" to meet the building code.
 
duke said:
If I removed the existing railing which is at 36" in height I would have to build a new one at 42" to meet the building code.
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I wondered what was going on there. It must surely be easier to remove the existing handrail, I thought to myself.

Our regs are 1100 for a handrail (other than around a staircase), so much the same as yours. Around a stair it's 900, or about 36". Tell me, are your codes (we call them regulations) national, or set by the state? If the latter, does that mean they vary?
 
Mike G said:
I wondered what was going on there. It must surely be easier to remove the existing handrail, I thought to myself.

Our regs are 1100 for a handrail (other than around a staircase), so much the same as yours. Around a stair it's 900, or about 36". Tell me, are your codes (we call them regulations) national, or set by the state? If the latter, does that mean they vary?
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Our building code is the Ontario Building Code. Set backs from property lines and bodies of water lakes rivers etc., are usually dictated by the Municipalities. The Municipalities issue building permits and carry out inspections . I would imagine all the provincial codes are similar, but I don't know.
I thought about removing the railing system but nixed that idea as when removing a spindle to allow for the post caused too much damage to the spindle. 2 1/2 " ardox nails were used. I will power wash the old surfaces to remove the greyish look then brush and roll on the end cut solution so that it looks similar to the new timber.
 
Just4fun said:
Earlier this year I met a Canadian lady who was on a visit to a small town near to me here in Finland. It turned out that her grandmother and my great-grandmother were born 2 years apart and lived on the same street in a small Gloucestershire village, so must have known each other. It is definitely a small world. What I found odd is that the Canadian lady spoke quite decent Finnish - better than I do by some margin.
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Sudbury is about an hours drive away from us, it is a nickle mining town with many emigrants . There is a retirement home called Finlandia. The Scandinavians have a very important history in our culture.
 
duke said:
Sudbury is about an hours drive away from us, it is a nickle mining town with many emigrants . There is a retirement home called Finlandia. The Scandinavians have a very important history in our culture.
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Sudbury is about a 5 minute drive from me. It's an ancient market town, with one or two buildings over a thousand years old, and many over 500 years old. It sits on the gorgeous river Stour.
 
Many cities and towns are named after those in your country and others, just before entering our Sudbury you travel through Coniston.
The name of the community where I am doing this job is Kipling.
 
Found this problem while setting up the ledger board! Need to clean it up fast and rain proof it as it will rain tonight.1000002265.jpg1000002266.jpg1000002268.jpg1000002269.jpg
 
Removed all the loose debris , hopefully if no rain tomorrow and1000002271.jpg1000002270.jpg1000002275.jpg I can repair the damage. All sealed for rain tonight.
 
Are those walls uninsulated?

I'll say it again, as I've been saying for years: OSB on the outside of a timber frame building is a disaster.........and the USA and Canada in particular are going to have a major problem with it as it is a standard building technique. OSB is a barrier to the movement of moisture through the wall, and as that movement is generally from the inside to the outside interstitial condensation will occur on the inside face of the OSB. In this case it is exacerbated by the fact that the cladding is fixed directly to it, without a gap. The USA, and everywhere else using OSB or ply as sheathing, should move it to the inside of the frame, leaving just a breather membrane on the outside to retain the insulation and provide a secondary defence against driven rain infiltrating the structure. Everywhere where space heating is necessary is vulnerable to this sort of devastating structural failure.
 
They were insulated, I removed it. I had a long discussion with the chief building official years ago and basically stated the same and he agreed with me/you. It makes no sense !

This problem was mainly due to improper window installation and siding trim. When I built the addition years ago the arch way into it from inside was where a sliding patio door was , similar issue. Had to replace 8 linear feet of load bearing exterior wall. This was also due to improper sealing of openings.

Windows , doors or anything penetrating the exterior envelope are a problem area if not done correct.

As well as proper attic ventilation as you have mentioned in posts numerous times.
 
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Not much done since last Wednesday. Repaired structural damage and between rain, replaced a starter motor in the truck and doctors appointments I am this far.1000002293.jpg1000002314.jpg1000002318.jpg1000002319.jpg1000002320.jpg
 
So more rain tomorrow, need to install new transmission fluid lines to the radiator on the truck. Loss of fluid yesterday, found a pin hole in the rusted lines. Managed to slow the leak down enough to get to work today.
 
I knew it would be fun at the ends, under the overhanging verge of the main roof.

I'll be interested to see how you flash this. Crinkly tin isn't something we use very much over here on houses. It's mainly used for commercial buildings and big agricultural sheds.
 
Quite like those downturned eyebrows! Think he’s already done the flashing Mike, there’s a little white-ish line, I suppose as long as it tucks up under a wall plank it will do the job.
Overall Duke I think it’s a huge improvement, do you find that it radiates heat downwards in the summer?
 
The film "Tin men" as well. Some people use the term "tin sandwich" for the mouth organ. Answering my own question, it seems there was a time when roofing would have been coated with tin.
 
Mike G said:
I knew it would be fun at the ends, under the overhanging verge of the main roof.

I'll be interested to see how you flash this. Crinkly tin isn't something we use very much over here on houses. It's mainly used for commercial buildings and big agricultural sheds.
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Very common in rural areas, easy to install, no worries about climbing a roof to repair shingles.
There is flashing along the long length right to where it meets the gable soffit at either sides and the metal roof is snug along the soffit.
I had a good size wasp nest to get rid of in the left corner when setting up the ridge board.
The flashing is hard to see Mike, it runs 6" up and behind the siding.
 
Cabinetman said:
Quite like those downturned eyebrows! Think he’s already done the flashing Mike, there’s a little white-ish line, I suppose as long as it tucks up under a wall plank it will do the job.
Overall Duke I think it’s a huge improvement, do you find that it radiates heat downwards in the summer?
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No, surprisingly the opposite Ian.
Yesterday while treating the deck and railing a huge rainfall came, nice sitting under the roof and watching the rain flow over the eaves. And the eyebrows shed the water nicely.
 
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