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The importance of double checking.

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The importance of double checking.

Postby Peri » 08 Jan 2022, 09:02

Needing a piece of steel for a jig I ordered this - Indexa GFS Gauge Plate 15x5x500​​​

The important bit of the spec was this
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Stupidly, I assumed it would be perfect - it's gauge plate, after all.

So I cut it to length, drilled it, test fitted it, and it wasn't even close to fitting.

So finally now I decide to check it :eusa-doh:

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And to top it off, it's bowed

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EDIT: And just in case anyone thinks it got damaged in transit, this is how it arrived :D :D
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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby 9fingers » 08 Jan 2022, 11:21

Complain. They state GFS and it’s not flat.
You might at least get your money back in compensation for the extra work needed to make it usable.
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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby RogerS » 08 Jan 2022, 11:24

If it was a misprint in the ad and they meant + or - 0.2mm then isn't in spec ?

I also am guilty of not reading the ad properly. I stupidly left my £5 hot glue gun on over night and that knackered it. So I ordered another one at an economical price. It arrived. It's tiny. It's a 'mini' hot glue gun :( As per the ad.
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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby Peri » 08 Jan 2022, 12:17

Haha I did that with some hold down clamps. Ridiculously low price (that should've been the flag), I was expecting clamps that were 6" or 8" long, the ones that arrived were maybe 2".

I didn't register the word 'mini' in the ad either.
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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby 9fingers » 08 Jan 2022, 12:20

I've heard of folk buying furniture online and ending up with dolls house sized pieces and no comeback as it was hidden in the description. :lol:

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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby Woodster » 08 Jan 2022, 12:58

Thanks for the warning. I bought lots of GFS in the past and not had any issues for the purpose I was using it for. All my stuff was bought over the counter from an engineers supplies outlet though. I need some more soon but the size is not critical for what I’m doing. I will check the size out of interest thought.
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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby Lons » 08 Jan 2022, 15:15

When my missus worked at the prison she had to wear expensive boots and preferred a specific make, I was on fleabay and came cross some perfect boots virually new size 3 in the description, perfect and at a fiver for £90 boots were a steal. Paid, posted and duly arrived in a couple of days, they were KIDS size 3. :lol:
The buyer offered to take them back as she hadn't put that in the description but we were in stitches with laughter and my missus took them in to work and hung them from her computer arm so everyone else could have a giggle.
I gave them away in the end to a suitably sized child.
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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby Peri » 15 Jan 2022, 10:24

Quick update.

Had a refund, and a reply

Hi Steve,

Our warehouse team have said that our stock is correct according to measurements with a simple calliper and is not bent as shown on the customer pictures. It probably got bent in transit due to poor packaging.


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Yeah...... thing is it's bowed along the thick edge, not the thin.

Just if anyone is interested, I got talking to a retired toolmaker at work, he said he'd seen that often. It comes from being surface ground incorrectly.
Instead of putting the bar on the magnetic table at an angle to the grinding wheel (so that the wheel only has intermittent contact), they've placed the bar at 90 degrees to the wheel, so when ground the wheel travels down it's whole length in one go.
Heat builds up in the bar, the centre of it expands, more material is ground away, and when the bar cools and shrinks you're left with a hollow.

Still, alls good now :)
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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby Lurker » 15 Jan 2022, 11:41

Anyone got recommendations for GFS suppliers?
Lots on the bay but spendy.

When I was a working man, I either raided the engineering stores or bought from Cromwell with company discount (which was close to 50% IIRC) plus free delivery to works address.
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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby Trevanion » 15 Jan 2022, 11:50

Lurker wrote:Anyone got recommendations for GFS suppliers?
Lots on the bay but spendy.

When I was a working man, I either raided the engineering stores or bought from Cromwell with company discount (which was close to 50% IIRC) plus free delivery to works address.


I bought some large pieces (150mm x 12mm x 500mm) from Coventry Grinders which I thought were a fair price. Ground Flat Stock also sell it, surprisingly :lol:

https://www.coventry-grinders.co.uk/

https://www.groundflatstock.com/
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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby 9fingers » 15 Jan 2022, 11:50

Sometimes - not always, I've found an ebay supplier and then gone direct to their website for a better deal.
For weighty stuff sometimes a visit in person to a local supplier works.

Totally agree about losing the ability to use employers facilities. Nearly 13 years since I retired, virtually all my contacts at my ex workplace have moved on. :( :(

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Re: The importance of double checking.

Postby wallace » 15 Jan 2022, 13:04

I wanted some brass flat bar for a machine and all the suppliers were crazy money. £300, Mr doubleboost kindly sourced it from the guy who does his cnc stuff and it was £120
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