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The Oliver Machinery Co Ltd Patent Vice

Postby toolsntat » 10 Sep 2021, 23:43

A very simple system with no screw thread to wear out.
Pull, push, twist to lock and unlock.
Any information greatly appreciated.
Cheers Andy
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Re: The Oliver Machinery Co Ltd Patent Vice

Postby Mike G » 11 Sep 2021, 08:13

Does it work?
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Re: The Oliver Machinery Co Ltd Patent Vice

Postby Rezi » 11 Sep 2021, 08:18

If there is no winding mechanism how does it exert a clamping force?
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Re: The Oliver Machinery Co Ltd Patent Vice

Postby AndyT » 11 Sep 2021, 08:24

Just picking up on the possible USA connection, but for a Ltd company in the UK, Grace's Guide says that the Manchester outfit was the UK operation of the American firm, so old US information is what you want.

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Oliver_Machinery_Co
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Re: The Oliver Machinery Co Ltd Patent Vice

Postby AndyT » 11 Sep 2021, 08:46

Thinking that there might be a US patent for this design, like it says on the vice itself, I had a look on Datamp. There was nothing in the patents belonging to the Oliver company but I did find this one in the vices. Dated 1909 and belonging to the Abernathy Vise and Tool company.

https://datamp.org/patents/search/advan ... 644&set=36

Is this describing your vise?


Edited to add: Here is an advert for the Abernathy vise from the Hardware Dealers association


https://archive.org/details/AbernathyVi ... 1/mode/1up
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Re: The Oliver Machinery Co Ltd Patent Vice

Postby toolsntat » 11 Sep 2021, 10:33

Mike G wrote:Does it work?


Watch this space ;)
Cannot see why not.
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Re: The Oliver Machinery Co Ltd Patent Vice

Postby toolsntat » 11 Sep 2021, 10:43

Rezi wrote:If there is no winding mechanism how does it exert a clamping force?


A snugly fitting casting with a cammed surface follows the fear jaw on the bar. When skewed by the cam it binds under pressure upon the bar in a similar way to Solo clamps.

The proper explanation is in the Abernathy link Andy has kindly provided above....
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Re: The Oliver Machinery Co Ltd Patent Vice

Postby toolsntat » 11 Sep 2021, 10:51

AndyT wrote:Thinking that there might be a US patent for this design, like it says on the vice itself, I had a look on Datamp. There was nothing in the patents belonging to the Oliver company but I did find this one in the vices. Dated 1909 and belonging to the Abernathy Vise and Tool company.

https://datamp.org/patents/search/advan ... 644&set=36

Is this describing your vise?


Edited to add: Here is an advert for the Abernathy vise from the Hardware Dealers association


https://archive.org/details/AbernathyVi ... 1/mode/1up


Yes Andy, the Abernathy has an uncanny resemblance.
Top marks on finding that.
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Re: The Oliver Machinery Co Ltd Patent Vice

Postby Trevanion » 12 Sep 2021, 12:43

Being a complete saddo, I have an Oliver Woodworking Machinery catalogue from 1922. Although I bought it from a shop here, It's interestingly from Australia rather than here, " SOLE AGENTS, Goodall & Co LTD, 303-305 Kent Street, Sydney" is stamped on the front and on a few pages inside, It's made a very long journey possibly from America to Australia to Britain to finally end up in my possession! Unfortunately, there's no mention of the vice shown by Andy but there's a couple of others:

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Re: The Oliver Machinery Co Ltd Patent Vice

Postby toolsntat » 12 Sep 2021, 21:01

Trevanion wrote:Being a complete saddo, I have an Oliver Woodworking Machinery catalogue from 1922. Although I bought it from a shop here, It's interestingly from Australia rather than here, " SOLE AGENTS, Goodall & Co LTD, 303-305 Kent Street, Sydney" is stamped on the front and on a few pages inside, It's made a very long journey possibly from America to Australia to Britain to finally end up in my possession! Unfortunately, there's no mention of the vice shown by Andy but there's a couple of others:

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Well done Dan and thanks for looking .
I'm starting to wonder if Oliver bought out Abernathy
No Abernathy and Oliver catalogues I suppose :eusa-whistle: ;)

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