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Alf wrote:Oh, I'm metric minded (not that old), but it's just that given it was built in inches in a country that still uses inches, it just makes sense (to me) to refer to it in inches. But I agree, the Imperial system does feature rather more poetry and whimsy than metric, which can be frustrating. Mind you, you've bought a 45 - you need to get used to being frustrated.
Alf wrote:Oh, I'm metric minded (not that old), but it's just that given it was built in inches in a country that still uses inches, it just makes sense (to me) to refer to it in inches.
Alf wrote:......you've bought a 45 - you need to get used to being frustrated.
Mike G wrote:Alf wrote:......you've bought a 45 - you need to get used to being frustrated.
No, no, no, young Alf. A Stanley with an adjusting screw doesn't even begin to register on the international scale of frustration. Get your Record 50 out and fiddle with the lever adjustment to remind yourself why.
Lurker wrote:Al,
Sorry that I could not help with the screw.
I have just had a look at my various planes
The following use that screw:
050
045
And 80 scraper
So it is not uncommon amongst record planes
Mike G wrote:Alf wrote:......you've bought a 45 - you need to get used to being frustrated.
No, no, no, young Alf. A Stanley with an adjusting screw doesn't even begin to register on the international scale of frustration. Get your Record 50 out and fiddle with the lever adjustment to remind yourself why.
AndyT wrote:The screw on a Stanley 55 fence looks like this:
The equivalent on a Record 405 looks like this:
They are simple screws, like the others on the planes.
If you like, I could copy either design, in steel or brass or just take some measurements.
If you want to make your own, I could lend you the die. (The dies are available on eBay and didn't cost much so I quite understand if you want to buy one of your own.)
Dr.Al wrote:Alf wrote:Finally tracked down the thread size for you, Doc, and apparently it's a #10-28. Hopefully that means more to you than it does to me!
And unbelievably, Record did copy Stanley's threads.
Brilliant, thanks Alf. That is indeed a non-standard thread as far as I can tell (according to my look-up table, UNF's nearest is #10-32 and UNC's is #10-24), but from that it would suggest a 4.83 mm diameter and 28 TPI (0.91 mm pitch). The diameter sounds about right: an M5 screw won't go in but an M4 one slides in easily. I guess I'd better sharpen my single-point thread cutting tool and hope I've got the gears for 28 TPI (if not I'm pretty sure I can do 0.90909 mm pitch, which is close enough!)
Dr.Al wrote:
Just in case anyone comes looking for this information in the future, I decided to make another screw as the same one was missing in the #55 I got relatively recently.
AndyT wrote:Dr.Al wrote:
Just in case anyone comes looking for this information in the future, I decided to make another screw as the same one was missing in the #55 I got relatively recently.
Woah, that's a nice drive-by gloat! Tell us more!
AndyT wrote:Excellent practical stuff!
I bought mine reasonably cheap at auction some years ago, mostly to understand how it worked and what it could do - which I expect piqued your interest as well.
The trouble is, the extra things don't seem to be things that I ever need to do! It can make asymmetrical edge mouldings - but only if the wood is very straight grained and co-operative - and it's nothing like as good at the job as a £5 moulding plane. It can make fancy chamfers - but it's not the right tool for the tiny ones I've been making today.
Making a box for it could be a good project for your very neat dovetails though, and you could 3D print special gizmos to hold the various extra bits!
Here's mine:
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