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An Auger Stock

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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby rxh » 06 Dec 2021, 21:55

Mike G wrote:
rxh wrote:I recently received a request to make a stock or handle for holding an auger bit.......


That is really posh! If one of those North American boutique tool makers made something like that it would be on sale for hundreds. I hope your customer likes it, because they should. Much too smart to make it into my workshop, though.

Thanks Mike - I don't make things for sale but I came to another arrangement with the recipient :)
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby Sheffield Tony » 06 Dec 2021, 23:59

rxh wrote:Thanks Andy - I had a look in a Marples catalogue but didn't see any examples there. Your small one is very interesting - I wonder if the countersunk hole in the thumb turn had any purpose.


Well the obvious one is for a tommy bar - possibly a user mod ?
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby AndyT » 07 Dec 2021, 00:05

It looks like it's original. Maybe just to hang it on a hook or on a bit of string?
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby spb » 07 Dec 2021, 17:27

Hanging hole would be my guess - without a bit in, the handle would hang nicely vertically down from the hole.
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby AndyT » 08 Dec 2021, 13:00

Just a quick footnote to something from earlier on. Preston's Improved Universal Brace Bit Holder turns up in the 1938 Marples catalogue looking like this:

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ie exactly the same as in the Preston catalogue, except for the maker's name, so presumably the design registration (if there was one) had expired by then. It also appeared in Tyzack's 1908 catalogue, but maybe that wasn't the "improved" version. The engravings, however, don't bring out the charm of the thing itself, so I hope Andy (Toolsntat) won't mind me sharing some jealous pictures I took a few years ago of his one, unused, in the original box:

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As you can see, a turned boxwood handle (like those used on brewer's gimlets) has a transverse square tapered hole. It also has a transverse brass pin, threaded for a brass-headed steel screw, which tightens against the bit shank. A lovely, neat little thing.

I'll leave the pictures there as a reminder to anyone with a lathe and some skill in these areas wondering what to make next!
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby Alf » 08 Dec 2021, 13:12

AndyT wrote:I'll leave the pictures there as a reminder to anyone with a lathe and some skill in these areas wondering what to make next!

I was just thinking that could be an inspiration for a Secret Santa, could it not? Lovely thing.
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby MattS » 09 Dec 2021, 12:54

I used one of these at the weekend on some green wood

http://www.findmytool.co.uk/stanley-bra ... review.php

The ratchet gave you some extra force and worked great, personally, I'd never seen one before. I also had never seen auger bits for end grain. The guy referred to them as bull nose or something else I've now forgotten!
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby Sheffield Tony » 09 Dec 2021, 14:14

Bull nose or Gedge pattern augers work better on end grain. Though none make it easy; the lead screw has a poorer purchase in to the end grain which often causes problems.
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby rxh » 14 Dec 2021, 16:04

AndyT wrote:Just a quick footnote to something from earlier on. Preston's Improved Universal Brace Bit Holder turns up in the 1938 Marples catalogue looking like this:

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ie exactly the same as in the Preston catalogue, except for the maker's name, so presumably the design registration (if there was one) had expired by then. It also appeared in Tyzack's 1908 catalogue, but maybe that wasn't the "improved" version. The engravings, however, don't bring out the charm of the thing itself, so I hope Andy (Toolsntat) won't mind me sharing some jealous pictures I took a few years ago of his one, unused, in the original box:

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The attachment 20141130_111904.jpg is no longer available


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As you can see, a turned boxwood handle (like those used on brewer's gimlets) has a transverse square tapered hole. It also has a transverse brass pin, threaded for a brass-headed steel screw, which tightens against the bit shank. A lovely, neat little thing.

I'll leave the pictures there as a reminder to anyone with a lathe and some skill in these areas wondering what to make next!

Well Andy, I couldn't resist making one :)
It is made of boxwood and the brass knob has hand-cut rope knurling.
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby novocaine » 14 Dec 2021, 16:05

fancy pants. :)
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby AndyT » 14 Dec 2021, 17:25

Brilliant!

Don't you love it when a plan comes together!

:eusa-clap: :obscene-drinkingcheers: :eusa-clap:
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby toolsntat » 15 Dec 2021, 02:01

AndyT wrote:Just a quick footnote to something from earlier on. Preston's Improved Universal Brace Bit Holder turns up in the 1938 Marples catalogue looking like this:

marples bit handle.jpg


ie exactly the same as in the Preston catalogue, except for the maker's name, so presumably the design registration (if there was one) had expired by then. It also appeared in Tyzack's 1908 catalogue, but maybe that wasn't the "improved" version. The engravings, however, don't bring out the charm of the thing itself, so I hope Andy (Toolsntat) won't mind me sharing some jealous pictures I took a few years ago of his one, unused, in the original box:

20141130_111823.jpg


20141130_111904.jpg


20141130_111916.jpg


As you can see, a turned boxwood handle (like those used on brewer's gimlets) has a transverse square tapered hole. It also has a transverse brass pin, threaded for a brass-headed steel screw, which tightens against the bit shank. A lovely, neat little thing.

I'll leave the pictures there as a reminder to anyone with a lathe and some skill in these areas wondering what to make next!


Wow, is that really mine Andy?
I recognised the green flock cover but cannot remember having the Marples model :eusa-think:
I wonder if someone brought it over to show me and you happened to snap it?
That said, I hope it is mine.... :eusa-dance: :lol:
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby Alf » 15 Dec 2021, 10:33

rxh wrote:Well Andy, I couldn't resist making one :)
It is made of boxwood and the brass knob has hand-cut rope knurling.

Proper job. :eusa-clap:
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby AndyT » 15 Dec 2021, 11:19

toolsntat wrote:Wow, is that really mine Andy?
I recognised the green flock cover but cannot remember having the Marples model :eusa-think:
I wonder if someone brought it over to show me and you happened to snap it?
That said, I hope it is mine.... :eusa-dance: :lol:
Cheers Andy


Well, as you can see from the filenames, it was on 30 November 2014, and it was at a very fine MAC Timbers open day. Other illustrious visitors included Richard (RXH) with his new Silchester plane, Pete Maddex (with blackcurrant jam,) Sheffield Tony, Richard Arnold (with a benchload of old planes to explore) Bill Carter, Ollie Sparks, Emma Tomes, Jim Hendricks, Douglas Coates...

I was also much taken by this little toolkit

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and these floats that you had on the green tablecloth that day.

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Do they help jog the memory? Is it in a box somewhere? :)
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby Raymedullary » 15 Dec 2021, 13:29

During my yacht/ships joinery apprenticeship, I was advised by my foreman to always keep a stop cock wheel in my toolbox as the square in them fits over the taper of a twist bit. Yachts being what they are... full of tight spaces they could have been handy.
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Re: An Auger Stock

Postby toolsntat » 15 Dec 2021, 23:01

Quote Andyt.....Do they help jog the memory? Is it in a box somewhere? :)

What do you mean "box" ? It's a viscous rumour :eusa-liar: :eusa-whistle:

The more I think about it, there is a possibility that I have it in that Marples tool box with all the other spanking new bits. I'll have to do a bit of shifting around....
Thanks for the memory jogger Andy, this'll be when I was on the front of the hall car park and not the time we had the monumental hail storm. :shock:
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