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Kitchen scales weights holders.

Postby Andyp » 08 Nov 2021, 09:47

Drilling a load of holes in a piece of wood hardly warrants a WIP but I’m going to do one anyway.

Managed some workshop time yesterday so thought I would see if my ideas would work. I knew that my multitude of drill bit types could cause a problem with a thin piece of wood. I’ll be using brad points, augers, forstners, metal and a fancy hole saw. All will be used on the bench drill.

I cut a 1/4” slice of some reclaimed mahogany on the bandsaw slicing through a hidden brass screw tip on the way. ;)

I soon discovered that the lead screw on the augers split the wood. A pilot hole soon fixed that.

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So far the cleanliness of the holes pleases me. Once all the holes are made the thin strip of mahogany will be glued to a thicker piece of oak.

Should be done in time for Santa to drop them down the chimney
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Re: Kitchen scales weights holders.

Postby 9fingers » 08 Nov 2021, 11:28

Good to see you out in the shop Andy.
That mahogany must be pretty special to produce such pale shavings :lol:

I'd be interested to see how the adjustable hole cutter works. When I first saw it I really wondered if it would be any good but after the glowing references to the supplier/maker from Droogs then I changed my mind for an open version (mind!)
It might be cleanest if you use a three layer sandwich clamped together and firmly attached to the drill table.
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Postby Andyp » 08 Nov 2021, 11:54

thanks Bob.

you don't think that I had time to clear up from my last foray into the shop do you? :)

It had occurred to me that I could drill the holes into the thicker piece of mahog and then cut the slice off. A waste of wood perhaps though and I've got it earmarked for other things :eusa-think:
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Postby 9fingers » 08 Nov 2021, 12:11

Andyp wrote:thanks Bob.

you don't think that I had time to clear up from my last foray into the shop do you? :)

It had occurred to me that I could drill on the holes into the thicker piece of mahog and then cut the slice off. A waste of wood perhaps though and I've got it earmarked for other things :eusa-think:



Maybe cut the blank 2-3mm oversize and run through p/t with multiple fine cuts?

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Postby droogs » 08 Nov 2021, 12:29

When using the StarM augers on Hardwoods, I put a 2mm pilot where I want my hole centre and clamp a bit of scrap mdf to the rear to prevent any breakout or chipping. I'm convinced they have a much smoother entry cut into the top surface, even compared to my Fisch Forstner bits.They are also a hell of a lot easier to keep sharp as well
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Postby Andyp » 08 Nov 2021, 12:31

9fingers wrote:
Andyp wrote:thanks Bob.

you don't think that I had time to clear up from my last foray into the shop do you? :)

It had occurred to me that I could drill on the holes into the thicker piece of mahog and then cut the slice off. A waste of wood perhaps though and I've got it earmarked for other things :eusa-think:



Maybe cut the blank 2-3mm oversize and run through p/t with multiple fine cuts?

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Yep, that’s another option but would require a sled to pass through the p/t. One day I might get around to making a drum sander attachment for the lathe.

Oh, and delivery of that fancy hole cutter is held up due to “covid”. By the weekend I hope.
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Postby Andyp » 08 Nov 2021, 12:38

droogs wrote:When using the StarM augers on Hardwoods, I put a 2mm pilot where I want my hole centre and clamp a bit of scrap mdf to the rear to prevent any breakout or chipping. I'm convinced they have a much smoother entry cut into the top surface, even compared to my Fisch Forstner bits.They are also a hell of a lot easier to keep sharp as well


Thanks Alan, My augers are from a bulk set, nothing fancy nor expensive. The pilot hole, especially on a thin slice of wood, is key for my application. The hole edges are clean and breakout minimal with, as you said, a backing piece clamped to the drill press.
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Postby droogs » 08 Nov 2021, 13:02

If you like the hole cutter and want to get some of their augers, a definitive guide is below. I do believe Peter Sefton stocks them. They are available with 3 different styles of shank - round, hex & 3flat in 1/2mm increments from 3 to 36mm

https://www.starminfo.com/en/product/gimune/4.html
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Postby Andyp » 13 Nov 2021, 17:12

I managed an hour and a half in the workshop earlier and made some holes.

To start with the starM hole cutter appears to be well made and if weight is anything to go by of good quality too. The 6mm centre drill was too long for my application so I shortened it before use. The instructions tell you that the vertical cutters do wobble but that it does not affect the quality nor accuracy of the cut. Centrifugal forces come into play perhaps. I only needed it for the two largest holes for the imperial set. I did a dummy run to make sure the hole diameter was spot on.

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I am happy with the smoothness of cut. A quick sand will be all that is needed.

And here are all the holes done for the imperial set. I am not very happy with the spacing, might have to redo.
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Postby AJB Temple » 13 Nov 2021, 20:33

Tricky job this to get it looking good. I think the spaces are hard to judge aesthetically without the weights in, as bulk as well as space will play a part. Can we see it with the weights in or are they down the road from me?

Are you going to fill the centre holes on the finished version and fit felt pads?
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Postby Andyp » 13 Nov 2021, 20:53

You’re right Adrian the whole design would have been easier if I did have the weights. Indeed they are with the cook in the UK.

That pine is just a backing piece to protect the drill table and reduce tear out. I’ll be glueing that slice of mahogany to a plinth, possibly oak.

I was considering placing felt in the holes or maybe using that powdered flock type stuff. Anyone remember what is it called?

These are the actual weights.

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Postby Andyp » 20 Nov 2021, 17:22

Managed to cut the other set of holes and wheel out the P/T to prep the apple for the base.

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Using the P/T and the bandsaw at the same time meant moving everything around the workshop.

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I really need a bigger workshop, of less machines :)
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Postby NickM » 20 Nov 2021, 18:42

Looking good
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Postby Malc2098 » 20 Nov 2021, 21:14

Wouldn't mind some of that apple for a guitar.
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Re: Kitchen scales weights holders.

Postby Andyp » 20 Nov 2021, 21:43

Malc2098 wrote:Wouldn't mind some of that apple for a guitar.


Drop me a PM Makc with dimensions. If I have a piece large enough it's yours. I’ll take some pictures of what I have tomorrow.
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Postby Malc2098 » 20 Nov 2021, 22:32

Andyp wrote:
Malc2098 wrote:Wouldn't mind some of that apple for a guitar.


Drop me a PM Makc with dimensions. If I have a piece large enough it's yours. I’ll take some pictures of what I have tomorrow.

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Re: Kitchen scales weights holders.

Postby Andyp » 12 Dec 2021, 17:30

Having glued the holes to the apple I did not like what I ended up with. Too much glue squeeze out in the base of the holes was difficult to remove cleanly and I dont think my holes are deep enough to stop the weights toppling over if the holder is knocked or nudged.

So I want from this
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To this.
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I what counts in these parts as an afternoon in the workshop.

I am going to drill the holes right through the apple this time and then add a thin base to stop the weight falling through when/if the holder is picked up.

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Postby AJB Temple » 12 Dec 2021, 18:10

Andy, when you are gluing this kind of thing, it is worth painting the glue on with a paintbrush, thinly. You will get hardly any squeeze out and any that does arise can be wiped out with a damp cloth. Stuff like Titebond is water clean up and so no brushes are waste. I've taken to always brushing glue on now when I make drawers or boxes, as the squeeze out from clamping is minimised and far less clean up to do.
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Postby Andyp » 12 Dec 2021, 20:03

I did indeed use a brush and was careful, I thought, not to get too close to the holes but obviously applied too much and clamped too tightly. More care and less glue next time.
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Postby Andyp » 31 Dec 2021, 16:52

Take 2

Drilled holes in a much thicker piece of Apple. Currently gluing some walnut veneer to the underside. Will double up on the veneer just for strength. The ply is there just for a flat, clean and even surface to clamp to.

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Postby Andyp » 02 Jan 2022, 15:01

Ok so this is possible the most basic project ever. Holes in a plank! ;) :)

And at the risk of boring anyone still interested here the are Mk II versions after 1 layer of 2mm walnut veneer has been stuck to the base.

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I swear the top row are in line but they as sure as hell dont look like it here.

Currently under clamps with the 2nd and final layer of veneer. Just simple sanding and shaping to go. Might just be finished in time for Christmas. :oops:
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Postby AJB Temple » 02 Jan 2022, 15:08

Holes in a plank? Thats plane (sic) insulting. :lol: Can't believe anyone said that.

Top plank, 2nd hole from left is in a straight line ......as long as it's a different line. 8-)

You had better post these, else I shall be doing a proper inspection prior to delivery!

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Postby Andyp » 02 Jan 2022, 15:52

:D p

To kinda quite Oscar Wilde “perfection is the last refuge of the unimaginative”.

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Postby Malc2098 » 02 Jan 2022, 16:35

Nice. Like the apple colour.
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Postby Andyp » 13 Jan 2022, 17:02

Finished with microcrystalline wax and now posted to recipient. I will post images with the weights in them as soon as I receive one.

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So today I have moved on from holes in planks to gluing and sticking the V ‘n A pattern for the anniversary legends. ;)
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