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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Mike G » 16 Feb 2022, 18:26

Cabinetman wrote:......He has a test booked for the 24th because he needs a negative result prior to a flight on 25th.... sometimes you need a PCR test to fly......


Not a UK requirement any longer. I didn't realise there were any countries still requiring this. Generally, vaccination certificates are enough.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby RogerS » 16 Feb 2022, 19:08

TBH all countries are constantly changing their requirements. And some, from a travelling perspective are pretty scary and make you think twice about going. For example, I would like to go to Greece this year windsurfing. They do random checks of passengers arriving. Probably one or two on each flight. But if they or anyone else tests positive then the entire flight has to go into self-isolation.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Just4fun » 16 Feb 2022, 20:26

Cabinetman wrote: I hope so, but the problem is sometimes you need a PCR test to fly and they can still keep showing you positive weeks after you are clear – they are hypersensitive to any dead bits of the virus still in your body.
Should be ok with a lateral flow test though. Ian

hmm the regulations say:
[The pre-departure test] can include a COVID-19 Polymerase Chain Reaction test (PCR test) at an internationally accredited or recognised lab/clinic/medical facility, or Antigen Rapid Test (ART) administered by a trained professional (self-swabs are disallowed).

These are terms I know nothing about. Is an Antigen Rapid Test the same as a lateral flow test?
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Just4fun » 16 Feb 2022, 20:31

Cabinetman wrote:I only mentioned it in case he needs to check, I don’t know where just4fun's son is but he is in Finland and I honestly don’t know what their rules are. Ian


Mike G wrote:Not a UK requirement any longer. I didn't realise there were any countries still requiring this. Generally, vaccination certificates are enough.

My son is in Finland, due to fly from here to Singapore. I believe the pre-flight test is required by Singapore, not Finland.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Blackswanwood » 16 Feb 2022, 23:29

Just4fun wrote:Is an Antigen Rapid Test the same as a lateral flow test?


Yes, it is.

We flew out to Chicago a couple of weeks ago and had a supervised via MS Teams lateral flow test on the day we flew. The nurse was in South Africa, we had to open the test pack on camera and she watched us go through the procedure. The test strip had to stay on camera for 15 minutes and once she had seen the result we were e-mailed the test certificate.

The use of masks and Covid protocols was a lot higher in the US than the UK. Virtually everyone wore masks and vaccine passports need to be shown when going in restaurants, bars or museums. We took the train up to Milwaukee and it was made pretty clear that anyone not complying with the rules on mask wearing was going to be turfed off the train by Amtrak Police.

I went to London by train yesterday - despite signs and announcements on LNER that masks are to be worn I’d estimate only a third of people did so. Covid doesn’t worry me particularly but I find it all a bit stupid to have rules and then not enforce them.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Cabinetman » 17 Feb 2022, 00:22

That’s interesting Robert, and it’s more stringent than back in November when I last flew there, but that was Pennsylvania, different States have different rules and none of the restrictions you mention are in force in PA.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby RogerS » 17 Feb 2022, 19:44

There's an interesting three part series called Backlog on Wed afternoon 4pm IIRC Radio 4. Very good insight into reasons why there is the backlog and from that some solutions are obvious. One thing's for sure, Brexit didn't help. Not one little bit.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Mike G » 17 Feb 2022, 23:29

Blackswanwood wrote:......I find it all a bit stupid to have rules and then not enforce them.


I don't think we've got any rules any more. I believe even testing and isolation will end in the next week or two. We're at a different phase of the disease compared with the USA. They have a significant percentage of anti-vaxxers, so have more people who are at risk (along with an obese and unhealthy population). When you've a fully vaccinated populace, and vast numbers who have natural immunity from having had omicron mildly, then masks and so on are irrelevant.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby RogerS » 18 Feb 2022, 02:04

Mike G wrote:
Blackswanwood wrote:......I find it all a bit stupid to have rules and then not enforce them.


.....and vast numbers who have natural immunity from having had omicron mildly, then masks and so on are irrelevant.


I don't think that those who have caught it 3x and then gone on to develop Long Covid would agree with that.

Being vaccinated does not make you immune and if you are immuno-compromised then wearing a good mask is very sensible.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Phil » 18 Feb 2022, 05:58

RogerS wrote:Being vaccinated does not make you immune and if you are immuno-compromised then wearing a good mask is very sensible.


:text-+1:

Wherever we go "no mask no entry" - shops, malls, our clubhouse and then there is also always the sanitising station.

We get our boosters today at our onsite clinic, very convenient. (I am first going to donate blood 8-) 8-) )
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Andyp » 10 Apr 2022, 09:12

Missus self tested positive this morning. We are all triple jabbed. The rest of us negative. Symptoms no more than a light cold. No fever, no cough, just runny nose and sore throat. Will get PCR test later.
She will have to isolate.
What does the team think:-
I was thinking of erecting our small tent inside either:-
A) Workshop, heated but a long walk to the loo
Or
B) Garage, unheated, 1 flight of stairs to the facilities.
With a frost on the lawn it does not seem fair to make her sleep outside .

With a short trip to the UK planned for the week after easter (cant get Cadbury cream eggs here) we are all holding our breath.p
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby 9fingers » 10 Apr 2022, 10:18

Andyp wrote:Missus self tested positive this morning. We are all triple jabbed. The rest of us negative. Symptoms no more than a light cold. No fever, no cough, just runny nose and sore throat. Will get PCR test later.
She will have to isolate.
What does the team think:-
I was thinking of erecting our small tent inside either:-
A) Workshop, heated but a long walk to the loo
Or
B) Garage, unheated, 1 flight of stairs to the facilities.
With a frost on the lawn it does not seem fair to make her sleep outside .

With a short trip to the UK planned for the week after easter (cant get Cadbury cream eggs here) we are all holding our breadth.


Similar situation here in the run up to Christmas. David sent home form work, tested positive on the way home. He was double jabbed and we were tripled. Apart from isolating we staying in the house together, testing regularly until all negative after about a week. No dramas.

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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Woodbloke » 10 Apr 2022, 10:23

Andyp wrote:With a frost on the lawn it does not seem fair to make her sleep outside .



Seems reasonable to me Andy. She'll be well toasty in a 4 seasons sleeping bag :lol: :lol: - Rob
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby SamQ aka Ah! Q! » 10 Apr 2022, 12:28

AndyP? I have recent two instances of family and friends, where one partner 'got it' after triple-jabbing, but the other partner didn't.

I am recovering from Covid, as of a month ago; it nearly put me in ARDS (wet lungs) and the Practice Specialist Nurse says "12 weeks on average" for the symptoms to subside :shock: . My mucker John was working alongside me and he "felt poorly for three days", then redecorated the spare bedroom until he tested negative... :o This bl**dy bug is a complete lottery.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Robert » 10 Apr 2022, 12:45

I redecorated the spare room whilst I had covid too :)

I had a day of feeling cold but being hot and mild cold symptoms for a week. Taste and smell went for at least a week and came back slowly. The cough is still there and it must be 3 weeks or so since I tested negative again. Cough is less and not a problem but I'd prefer it gone. The 12 weeks comment is interesting. Hope it is less.

Seems getting it now is just something you have to go through. Call it a 4th dose of vaccine.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Andyp » 10 Apr 2022, 12:47

Indeed Sam. One daughter had it here back in Feb, the rest of us never caught it.

Even though she is home for the holidays my eldest daughter will go back to her flat today so I can have her bedroom. Missus will stay in the master as she has her home office in there.

She says she would have been happy with a tent in the garden but the WIFi is not so good. :eusa-think:

Took a while to find a test centre open on a Sunday afternoon. She will need a certificate for work and, I think, to get some more free test kits.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Mike G » 10 Apr 2022, 16:10

Well, I've got it again.......but it's like an entirely different disease this time around. First time (March 2020) I was properly ill, felt absolutely rotten, and had 10 days of total lethargy, fever, aches and pains and so on. My wife was even worse, with auto-immune symptoms and breathing issues. This time I have a bit of a sore throat and needed a 10 minute siesta today, but that's about it.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Andyp » 12 Apr 2022, 16:44

Buggęr
I’ve got it now, tight throat only but auto tests confirmed by PCR.

* damn and blast. Isolate for 5 days from first symptoms then test again before travel.

Walnut dowels needed for the V&A table waiting for me in Blighty.

I wonder if the British Universal Grit Grime & Effluent Remover would help. It’s an acronym. :)

With apologies to Mr Wedlock. If paracetamol don’t help and antibiotics wont cure it then Buggęr it. :)
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Woodbloke » 12 Apr 2022, 17:59

I went down with a horrible cold last weekend which also badly affected my sinuses; the doc prescribed some antibiotics for the sore throat and chesty cough as well as a nasal squirty thing for the hooter. All sorted out now but SWIMBO's gone and caught it as well; she took a LFT (mandatory for hospital staff) and it t'weren't Covid which was a relief. I can't be ar$ed to take the things any more - Rob
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Andyp » 14 Apr 2022, 17:55

No Cadbury’s cream eggs for us this year. :(
Missus still positive on 5th day. She only ever had a runny nose and today feels quite well. My symptoms vary daily, yesterday fever but no cough just a little congested. Today no fever, no congestion but occasional deep cough and blocked nose. Self isolating in the house.
Fingers crossed we can keep it away from the kids.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Lurker » 15 Apr 2022, 14:22

Andyp wrote:No Cadbury’s cream eggs for us this year. :(
Missus still positive on 5th day. She only ever had a runny nose and today feels quite well. My symptoms vary daily, yesterday fever but no cough just a little congested. Today no fever, no congestion but occasional deep cough and blocked nose. Self isolating in the house.
Fingers crossed we can keep it away from the kids.


I thought that all the ferries were in a mess anyway.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby 9fingers » 15 Apr 2022, 15:13

Lurker wrote:
Andyp wrote:No Cadbury’s cream eggs for us this year. :(
Missus still positive on 5th day. She only ever had a runny nose and today feels quite well. My symptoms vary daily, yesterday fever but no cough just a little congested. Today no fever, no congestion but occasional deep cough and blocked nose. Self isolating in the house.
Fingers crossed we can keep it away from the kids.


I thought that all the ferries were in a mess anyway.


Only P&O ferries are grounded AFAIK

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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby Andyp » 15 Apr 2022, 15:32

We were booked on Eurotunnel Easter Sunday and hoping that Operation Brock would have been over by the time we made the return journey.

Day 4 since positive test and another symptom change, a blocked, burning and runny nose. No longer coughing much and dead tired. Just as well I can sit in the garden for a change. 19°C out there today.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby RogerS » 16 Apr 2022, 08:37

@ Phil Pascoe

Really feel sorry for you down in Cornwall, Phil, listening to the news today. 2.5 million :o cases of Covid. WTF? We have too many KDOS and need a cull. Why are people so thick and stupid? So utterly uncaring of others ?

What is so difficult for the KDOS to understand ? Wear a bloody mask. If you go out without one and increase your social contact with others then you WILL get Covid. You may be lucky and only get symptoms of a sniffle. You simply don't know. Even second time round. Or third time. But you never know. Do you really want Long Covid ? Anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron IMO.
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Re: It’s getting closer

Postby RogerM » 16 Apr 2022, 09:37

RogerS wrote:@ Phil Pascoe

Really feel sorry for you down in Cornwall, Phil, listening to the news today. 2.5 million :o cases of Covid. WTF? We have too many KDOS and need a cull. Why are people so thick and stupid? So utterly uncaring of others ?

What is so difficult for the KDOS to understand ? Wear a bloody mask. If you go out without one and increase your social contact with others then you WILL get Covid. You may be lucky and only get symptoms of a sniffle. You simply don't know. Even second time round. Or third time. But you never know. Do you really want Long Covid ? Anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron IMO.


I agree with the sentiment but not sure about those figures. Cornwall only has a population of 566,000.
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