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shafiq

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Hi all.

Shafiq. Found this after Tris mentioned it on that other forum. Been keeping an eye but just as a window shopper. My woodworking skills slowly getting better (very very slowly) after actually starting to read the Pekovich book (and lots of good advice from some fine folk on here... and there) and today I wondered about some end-grain jointing but thankfully don't need to tackle that yet.

Erm, my outhouse/woodworking area is a total total mess and I (think I) made my first post on here today. Still awaiting mod approval, and then this would be my second.

Good working to you all 😀 and if anyone has a suggestion of bulk glue, good for jointing but cheaper that Titebond. Then I'm all ears (for reference my Hippo PVA is **ite and) as I refuse to buy into too much No Nonsense. Our joints deserve (a) better (name).

Shafiq
 
Welcome again lol, I’ve always used Evostick I find Titebond way too runny and messy, and it’s pooled in the mortise by the time I’ve put the joint together. If you’re finding glue too expensive are you maybe using too much? Just a thought.
Ian
 
Thanks you lot. Sorry for the double (and possibly, triple if I have done so previously) intro post. My wood working skills getting slowly better.

I never thought I would make it through the moderators filters so had to double check the rules. Seem decent and straightforward, and I'll try my best.

Possibly maybe am using too much, but I always thought for jointing I want the long grain fully covered 😀. Everybuild indeed, yes I saw that soon after mentioning my glue-problems. 5L for £25, seems decent. Using yoo much, isn't that called overengineering 😆.
 
shafiq said:
Thanks you lot. Sorry for the double (and possibly, triple if I have done so previously) intro post. My wood working skills getting slowly better.
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Welcome Shafiq.

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........ Everybuild indeed, yes I saw that soon after mentioning my glue-problems. 5L for £25, seems decent. Using yoo much, isn't that called overengineering 😆.
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No, it's called wasteful. It just squeezes out, get's mopped up and thrown away, spoiling the surface of the wood for finishing in the process if you're not careful. Any old PVA is fine for indoor stuff. You need a waterproof glue for outdoor work, and I prefer Everbuild 502. If you're assiduous with cleaning the nozzle each time, you can even get it to work for over half the contents of the bottle!
 
Mike G said:
Welcome Shafiq.



No, it's called wasteful. It just squeezes out, get's mopped up and thrown away, spoiling the surface of the wood for finishing in the process if you're not careful. Any old PVA is fine for indoor stuff. You need a waterproof glue for outdoor work, and I prefer Everbuild 502. If you're assiduous with cleaning the nozzle each time, you can even get it to work for over half the contents of the bottle!
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Thanks v much Mike. Amazing (and very thankful) foe your workshop/shed plans btw from all those years ago. I only came across them this year but no doubt will be using them soon enough.
 
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That's me thanks @Accipiter spot on. Didn't want to mention 'the other place' and make it all political violence and the likes. I think I just like riding bikes now 😆 and phasing out that name.
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Not likely to be allowed to happen over here Shafiq - the 'political/violence stuff 😊... There's a few here you'll recognise 👍
 
Accipiter said:
Not likely to be allowed to happen over here Shafiq - the 'political/violence stuff 😊... There's a few here you'll recognise 👍
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You read it wrong Accipter. I was referring to the other place as being the 'political' place and thus not wanting to mention it and get into trouble.

Made sense in my head at the time. In any case, I'm sat with my dad (suffering self neglect, but managed to get him to shower this morning after explaining to him last night what a 'safeguarding referral' is) but have a plan of lots of woodwork when I gets home shortly.

Hope your loft insulation problem is coming on nicely and you're not still full of itchiness.
 
shafiq said:
You read it wrong Accipter. I was referring to the other place as being the 'political' place and thus not wanting to mention it and get into trouble.

Made sense in my head at the time. In any case, I'm sat with my dad (suffering self neglect, but managed to get him to shower this morning after explaining to him last night what a 'safeguarding referral' is) but have a plan of lots of woodwork when I gets home shortly.

Hope your loft insulation problem is coming on nicely and you're not still full of itchiness.
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I understood you were referring to the other place... hence the 'wouldn't be allowed here'... 😉

Sorry to hear about your dad... you have my best wishes there 🙏.

I think you may have got me mixed up with someone else on the loft insulation 🤔... I had a small bit to do in my workshop but used some made from recycled plastic bottles that is itch free... NO Worries 😊👍
 
shafiq said:
You read it wrong Accipter. I was referring to the other place as being the 'political' place and thus not wanting to mention it and get into trouble.

Made sense in my head at the time. In any case, I'm sat with my dad (suffering self neglect, but managed to get him to shower this morning after explaining to him last night what a 'safeguarding referral' is) but have a plan of lots of woodwork when I gets home shortly.

Hope your loft insulation problem is coming on nicely and you're not still full of itchiness.
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There's absolutely no issue with talking about UKW or any other forums mate, so long as it's done in a respectful way. There is absolutely no axe to grind whatsoever, we just offer a slightly different product over here, which some will like and others don't and find too slow, and that's fine too.

There's room for all of us!
 

@shafig​

Re Glue, whatever brand you decide to go with be very much aware of shelf life, many of the respected offerings have a relatively short shelf life in respect of 'hobby woodworker' timescales. If you are not using large quantities or have significant breaks between usage then the larger and sometimes the only, available packaging can prove to have a significant wastage quotient.

Check manufactures data sheets, Everbuild 502 quotes12month shelf life and 504/D4 versions have a 6 month shelf life from date of manufacture for instance. (both excellent adhesives)

I personally got away with much longer (years) shelf life on some adhesive examples but conversely have on several occasions over the years thrown away more than I've consumed.

Bottom line good adhesive is not cheap, try not to waste it.
 
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I buy Everbuild 502 from amazon (Sika, the manufacturer has a “shop” on there) the manufacture date is printed on the bottle and I have never had one more than a month old.
I buy a 500ml bottle which lasts me about a year but get a new one at twelve months or whatever it runs short.
Any old stuff is used in cement.
 
@Accipiter it's my dyslexia (organisational difficulties, not spelling as such) and I tend to group certain names/subjects in the same band. I think I was referring to @Cabinetman regards the loft insulation

@TrimTheKing that's amazing and well spoken. Partly one of the reasons why I've been following and slowly liking the site more and more. Fits in with that philosophy/statement (which I learnt from one of my senior teachers/lecturers) that, 'I'm right, but could be wrong... and you're wrong, but it could be that you're actually the one thats right' 😆 and I'm not talking about sharpening, honest.

@CHJ there's basically lots and lots of jointing (never knew its a thing we/me simple woodworkers could actually achieve) I'm doing as there's a load of wood I'm processing. Even without the recycled stuff, I have a whole many chunks of sycamore to get through. That's once I've managed to get myself sideways into my work areas!!

So a 5L should see me through easily without expiring. Managed to get through 500ml of Titebond Ultimate in just 2 months and thats without trying to waste it. I generally wipe excess and straight back into the bottle 😆.

@Steve Maskery I shall indeed look at the D4 stuff aswell. Thanks everyone and I'll try and behave. @Accipiter he's going on 74 shortly and a tough cookie of sorts. But constant infections in the past 4 years, a fall and neck brace then my mum having a massive stroke (she's doing well, properly positive and focussed), looks like at some point he just decided he's gonna take a back seat and do minimal.

The safeguarding discussion did him good and I was going to follow through. But this am, a full freshen up and he even asked me to shave his hair and tache. Anyway, the wife (whipcracker) is here and I'm gonna have to negotiate some woodworking time. So best be off... 😆.
 
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Yes thank you it was me with the itchy stuff, had all the correct gear and I have been amazed that there’s not one little bit got me!
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Don't you just love correct gear. During Covid, on a respiratory ward. I too had the correct gear and there was a strict 'throughfare' to ensure none of the air from inside the ward travelled outside without first going through a neutral zone. ie. 2 doors closed before a third opens.

I still remember the day some colluesgues didn't bother following correct procedure. Not their fault, there was alot going on and we were all gonna get it at some point I suppose.

About 48 hours later I lost my sense of taste/smell. Despite having the correct gear (but someone not playing ball). Sorry for the random thoughts but your 'correct gear' brought back memories.
 
No worries @shafiq 🙂... fully understand.

My son has dyslexia as well as dyspraxia... not diagnosed until he was at Falmouth University as a mature student on a Marine & Natural History Photography course at the age of 30 - he's now 41.

Now (eventually after a great deal of time and effort to guide him to do something - no one in the family or elsewhere listening to me 😡) he's on a waiting list to be tested for being on the Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) scale. Had issues when he started his first school but was never diagnosed back then... let down by the local education authority and the schools.
 
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No worries @shafiq 🙂... fully understand.

My son has dyslexia as well as dyspraxia... not diagnosed until he was at Falmouth University as a mature student on a Marine & Natural History Photography course at the age of 30 - he's now 41.

Now (eventually after a great deal of time and effort to guide him to do something - no one in the family or elsewhere listening to me 😡) he's on a waiting list to be tested for being on the Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) scale. Had issues when he started his first school but was never diagnosed back then... let down by the local education authority and the schools.
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Similar story to be honest here [or, 'here, to be honest' Shafiq]. I think I had excellent teachers through Junior and High School (right until the point where I became saturated and couldn't learn anymore, so became rebellious...) so never picked it up myself. Mrs Lindley when I was about 9 probably had me identified properly cos she'd always ask me to think carefully, then speak - and other such techniques like keeping a vocabulary, so my spelling was always immaculate.

Eventually got diagnosed after being a mature student and entering Uni for the second time. Only because a colleague/fellow student on the Access to Health Sciences Foundation Course did a presentation on dyslexia. The light clicked and I finally realised what all my troubles had (not limited to, I was also an average woodworker and thats worse 😀) been. Spoke to the correct people, got a clinical psychologist review and the rest was/is history.

Managed to get a 1st with Hons (all thanks to God) and my elder brother (the smartpants of the family) was slightly shocked. Took him to recieve one of my wards from his favourite ever character. Captain Jean Luc Picard himself. Lol, I even got him to collect my award so he got to shake Patrick's hand instead of me.

Woodworking, fixes everything. Ever so thankful to my dad to for always pushing my 'making/doing' skills as I was growing up. I reckon he has something similar too but maybe thats just me. Funny thing is that...

It was only after being a member at UKW for 10+ years (came along by accident thinking my cycling workshop counts 😆) and continuing to make fairly average work (contiboard/screws and a square that never was) that I started out on dovetails. Its then I realised what some of my dad's tools actually were (marking gauge for example). I still have his vice which has been in my outhouse for the past 10+ years and I've only just recently upgraded to two more.

A bit of a mouthful, sorry. In any case, my son has dyslexia and probably mild ADHD (still working with the specialist at school, but not pushing for an official diagnosis as such, just more time for exams/tests). Its this thats got me more serious about (hand) woodworking in the past few years. Though I was always a lover of D&T and do alot of my car servicing stuff myself as well as (re)build lovely bicycles.
 
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What a whirlwind that some young people get given @shafiq 😕... I think I became aware of *some* issues when my son had trouble with numbers... trying to teach him to count with smarties and such. It made no mark on him at all for any numbers or anything to do with them. When I pointed it out to the schools their 'excuse' was "a little bit slow"...

After getting to Uni and getting the diagnosis for dyslexia and dyspraxia I was (still am) very surprised that he wasn't also (also wasn't) diagnosed with Dyscalculia... 🤷. Getting into photography has been a great help to him - but he's dismayed at times with the lack of 'engagement' from others. This is his Flickr address (sorry to divert your post somewhat) https://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesetchellsphotography if of interest
 
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What a whirlwind that some young people get given @shafiq 😕... I think I became aware of *some* issues when my son had trouble with numbers... trying to teach him to count with smarties and such. It made no mark on him at all for any numbers or anything to do with them. When I pointed it out to the schools their 'excuse' was "a little bit slow"...

After getting to Uni and getting the diagnosis for dyslexia and dyspraxia I was (still am) very surprised that he wasn't also (also wasn't) diagnosed with Dyscalculia... 🤷. Getting into photography has been a great help to him - but he's dismayed at times with the lack of 'engagement' from others. This is his Flickr address (sorry to divert your post somewhat) https://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesetchellsphotography if of interest
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Just had a quick browse and those pics of Orion’s Belt are stunning!!
 
Accipiter said:
What a whirlwind that some young people get given @shafiq 😕... I think I became aware of *some* issues when my son had trouble with numbers... trying to teach him to count with smarties and such. It made no mark on him at all for any numbers or anything to do with them. When I pointed it out to the schools their 'excuse' was "a little bit slow"...

After getting to Uni and getting the diagnosis for dyslexia and dyspraxia I was (still am) very surprised that he wasn't also (also wasn't) diagnosed with Dyscalculia... 🤷. Getting into photography has been a great help to him - but he's dismayed at times with the lack of 'engagement' from others. This is his Flickr address (sorry to divert your post somewhat) https://www.flickr.com/photos/jamesetchellsphotography if of interest
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Oh wow. Tell him that is some amazing shots and shows how well he ventures out. Didn't know about that lake in Wales but have been riding around the Brecons. I got to page 5 but I think I'll login on the laptop and take em in properly. Thanks for this.
 
Hi Shafiq and welcome from Northumberland. You'll enjoy it over here, far more civilised and gentle.

It's good to read your story as it puts some meaning behind the name and your son has some great photographs on his website. I'll pass that link over to my son who is also an enthusiast and your son might be interested in some of his at https://northphoto.co.uk/ . He's a hill walker and wild camper also which he combines with photography and just come back from a week with a couple of mates in the Highlands sleeping in a hammock while it was snowing and hailing. - idiot :rolleyes:
 
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