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Blood pressure

shafiq said:
@Accipiter good point there sir. I'm assuming here (it happens, not as often) you had been or are a good drinker (pf good old water) and never been one for loading everything with salt.

Thing with electrolytes (salt, potassium, magnesium etc) is that not only do they help the retention of each other - can't recall exactly how it works, but for example if potassium is critically low/high I think magnesium is needed to help it stay - but with sodium for example having too low is also a massive problem.

Potassium having too low or high means conduction problems of the heart and hence why usually people qith such are admitted urgently. Hyponatreamia (sorry for the posh word, even if I might have spelt it correctly) when the salt is low needs correcting. But - in hospital this is and not sure what trajectory they use in the community - it needs doing so slowly.

You're unique 😁 and obviously do as that nurse says.
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Thanks shafiq... for the information on salt/potassium/magnesium... To be totally honest they've not been able to define what's going on with my BP etc., and the best way to treat for it!

My faith in my doctor took a bit of a dent after having blood test after blood because I was having 'fatigue' issues and such. Only by my own research (via Google! ) did I come across the possibility of an under active thyroid. In a telephone discussion with him I asked about this and other levels (B12 and the li,e) for him to say "oh! yes it is a bit low!"... been on Levothyroxine for a bit since. Made me question his "attention" to my blood tests results as all he seemed to focus on was my iron count... I've been on Omeprazole (and similar) for many years - apparently shouldn't have been without regular monitoring! I've concerns that this has something to do with some of my 'ailments' but he doesn't seem interested in such. Anyway... enough of my prattling on - and not wanting to divert the thread in another direction 😜🙏
 
shafiq said:
So you're high BP was actually not taking in enough salt. Interesting that one. Sounds like maybe she blagged it but definitely low salt can cause the dizziness. I'll bet the 'high BP ' wasn't actually that high and I'll also wager that you don't have the regular hardening of the arteries (again, just my opinion). Thanks very much for sharing btw.
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May we'll be... but never conclusively confirmed. No *doctor* follow up to get a confirmation for such - or treatment of.
 
shafiq said:
So you're high BP was actually not taking in enough salt. Interesting that one. Sounds like maybe she blagged it but definitely low salt can cause the dizziness. I'll bet the 'high BP ' wasn't actually that high and I'll also wager that you don't have the regular hardening of the arteries (again, just my opinion). Thanks very much for sharing btw.
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Reducing salt is NOT a magic bullet and in many cases minimal

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They stick you on tablets as something to do....well, not quite. I was on six. Down to four and one of those is omeprazole and highly debatable if `I need it. Or even should have had it in the first place.
 
RogerS said:
They stick you on tablets as something to do....well, not quite. I was on six. Down to four and one of those is omeprazole and highly debatable if `I need it. Or even should have had it in the first place.
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I was put on the Omeprazole (and derivatives of before) for an Hiatus hernia... around 26~28 years ago - varying strengths of. I'm now 20mg daily (10mg morning/10mg evening) but I've reduced it to 1 morning only... monitoring myself. My only other meds are for my prostate - think I mentioned previously - and Artovastatin (20mg).
 
shafiq said:
Hyponatreamia (sorry for the posh word, even if I might have spelt it correctly) when the salt is low needs correcting. But -
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Hyponatraemia. My late wife had it as a complication of the Big C. She was incapacitated (read wheeelchair) for over a fortnight and hospitalised for a week of that. A very serious condition, which even intravenous salts (multiple ions) did not sort out for well over 10 days. Take care Folks, this one is a whopper.
 
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Accipiter said:
.... and Artovastatin (20mg).
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I was on this one for a while, amongst three other different types of statins (one after another) to reduce high cholesterol. A side effect of these meds is insomnia (read the info label) which they triggered in me. When I was still suffering (gone now, praise be!) with it, I went to my current doc who looked at the box of meds I took into the consultation, picked them up and lobbed them into his waste paper bin. "Right" he said, "you're off those bloody things permanently now!"

It took several years and a lot of effort to eventually re-wire my brain (some would say it wasn't worth the effort:ROFLMAO:) to eventually kick chronic insomnia into the long grass; the most brutal treatment I voluntarily subjected myself to was an online programme from Sleep Station on the NHS which uses CBTi instead of medication. It used to be free in Wiltshire but it's no longer supported, however it may well be offered in other parts of the UK - Rob
 
@Woodbloke I really like your doctor 😆. After a heart condition (infection of the outer 2 layers which landed me on the coronary care unit) my consultant cardiologist started me on a heart med. Ramipril which AFAIR he'd put me on for heart failure (sounds about right).

I refused to start me meds-career at that age so went for alternative therapy and never took em (don't try this at home). About 6 months or 8 later my GP upon discussion decided I was good enough to be off them... But I never did tell him!!

My heart rate at the time on coronary care unit was going down to about 30 which really alarmed the team. Interesting part of my life in which I shared a brief 'something in common' with Chris Boardman and Eddy Merckx (both had a resting heart rate in the 30s).

Anyway, as we were. Well done that amazing doctor.
 
Woodbloke said:
I was on this one for a while, amongst three other different types of statins (one after another) to reduce high cholesterol. A side effect of these meds is insomnia (read the info label) which they triggered in me. When I was still suffering (gone now, praise be!) with it, I went to my current doc who looked at the box of meds I took into the consultation, picked them up and lobbed them into his waste paper bin. "Right" he said, "you're off those bloody things permanently now!"

It took several years and a lot of effort to eventually re-wire my brain (some would say it wasn't worth the effort:ROFLMAO:) to eventually kick chronic insomnia into the long grass; the most brutal treatment I voluntarily subjected myself to was an online programme from Sleep Station on the NHS which uses CBTi instead of medication. It used to be free in Wiltshire but it's no longer supported, however it may well be offered in other parts of the UK - Rob
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Interesting... 🤔... I 'suffer' from a 'sort of' insomnia but I've put it down to my prostate issue - causes me to get up during the night. On meds, 1 which is supposed to help shrink the prostate but still have the night 'problem'. That said, the blood test results show as 'managed' - think I need to chat to the doc again about it. I'll also 'chat' about the Artovastatin. Last time I spoke to him about my meds he said the cholesterol is a lot lower and gave a lower dose! Thanks for mentioning about one of the side effects Rob. I've been on them for so long I've not reread the leaflet.
 
One other thing about cholesterol folks (without causing sharpening levels of difference of opinion). Adding (lots of raw, organic, cold pressed, single origin... just my opinion) olive oil in the diet isn't a bad thing. Check out the info online, theres loads of it but generally speaking it'll fight off the bad cholesterol 🤩
 
Accipiter said:
.... I've been on them for so long I've not reread the leaflet.
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For some few months in 2019 I was on statins until one night the insomnia kicked in and again the next night, so I got up at about 3am, went downstairs and read the info leaflet. Sure enough there it was in black n'white! It didn't get any better over the next few weeks which is when I went to see the doc again, with the result mentioned above. He prescribed a very weak form of melatonin (forgot the name) which was useless and then progressively stronger, addictive sleeping tablets (Zopiclone) which worked but were bloody dangerous to take long term. Proper melatonin can't now be prescribed in the UK but is available online from places like the US. He advised under no circumstances to order melatonin online from the US. Eventually, he suggested trying 'Sleep Station' which over some months did start to have a positive effect, but it was, as I said, a brutal programme - Rob

Edit - if it's any consolation, my doc also said in no uncertain terms that many of our ailments are caused by the wrong meds!
 
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I can well accept that Rob - and I'm always a bit reluctant to take the mess long term. Until finding out that being on Omeprazole (derivatives of) long term isn't advised and that "the doctor should follow up with six monthly checkups" I'd put my faith in them. Now I'm finding myself questioning things they've told me - if not at the time but after researching afterwards. I could do with a doctor like yours... mine seems to be a tad 'off with the fairies' at times - or too laid back 🤔
 
I was left on too high a dose of Omeprazole for too long due to lack of proper meds review and ended up with peripheral nerve problems (constant severe pins and needles in feet and hands) due it would seem to lack of B12 etc. absorption. Taking B12 supplement rapidly corrected deficiency but sensitive (damaged?) nerve ends have never completely recovered.
 
Accipiter said:
Sorry to hear that Chas 😞.
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Thanks for the thought, just another little niggle to add to the collection of age related manifestations that make determining if more pressing alarm bells are starting to ring in earnest.

One thing that the last 2 years or so have taught me is that YOU SHOULD READ all those long missives included in all medication packages, prescribed and off the shelf, also look to see if there is a carefully hidden medication alert card (carry at all times) tack glued inside the carton.

Trying to get the head around them and the significance of Blood Analysis reports is worse than having to review COSHH checks in a large aircraft maintenance facility, talk about chicken & egg syndrome!!.
 
shafiq said:
……. generally speaking it'll fight off the bad cholesterol 🤩
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More accurately speaking….it will help reduce LDL….and especially when it replaces highly saturated fat. It is not a magic bullet
 
Definitely - and do - read them... and carry a card for one of the meds - although presently no side effects from that one.

Sadly it's one of those things that, over time, other stuff happening in our busy lives tends to push what's been read further back in our minds *over time*. It's only when "something" goes awry that we *may* just link it to medication and reread those things. If a medication states 6 monthly check then surely the patient *would be thinking* that the doctor is aware and it's noted for such to happen 🤔. I know of the difficulty in getting appointments *these days* but it wasn't the case 20+ years ago when first given such pills. They do call in/remind for ANNUAL blood checks so why not (in my practice) prescribed medication checks?

In my case it was me that brought it up with the doctor (different ones as I didn't always get to see *my* doctor) and some nurses at the practice, and ALL they've done is reduce the strength. *My* doctor only said "Do you need to take them?"... Not "Let's look at if you need to take them, how to reduce and possible alternatives".

Having mentioned the long term taking of the Omeprazole (and derivatives of) to a BP nurse on a checkup she changed it to 20mg... but to be taken once a day in the morning - instead of 10mg twice daily: morning/evening before or after eating - to control the acids. I had to request, quite strongly, that it was changed from one 20mg pill daily to 2x 10mg as the 1 pill wasn't controlling things.

Having said further above that *I* have reduced to 1 daily at present, trying to wean off them, there are days when I do have to resort to raking a 2nd pill. Attempting self reduction has stresses which doesn't help with BP control
 
Accipiter said:
I can well accept that Rob - and I'm always a bit reluctant to take the mess long term. Until finding out that being on Omeprazole (derivatives of) long term isn't advised and that "the doctor should follow up with six monthly checkups" I'd put my faith in them. Now I'm finding myself questioning things they've told me - if not at the time but after researching afterwards. I could do with a doctor like yours... mine seems to be a tad 'off with the fairies' at times - or too laid back 🤔
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Routine testing as you suggest is only needed if other factors are presenting, your age, dosage etc etc
 
RogerS said:
Routine testing as you suggest is only needed if other factors are presenting, your age, dosage etc etc
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I'd gone back to them on this 'ailment' they'd prescribed these type of meds for - Omeprazole being the one presently on - as they'd not found out the reason/investigated *over a period of time* it to be prescribed. Eventually an endoscopy - a couple of over a period of the 20 years - came up with the hiatus hernia. I don't recall when but I'd accepted, I guess, that the doctors knew best... back then.

Now I've reached the grand age of 75 *my* doctor has informed me he is taking *personal* responsibility for my wellbeing! Although I can see other doctors if he's not available...
 
I’m grateful for the timely nudge re Omeprazole…prescribed in error IMO by a trigger happy GP who also stuck GERD on my medical record despite me not having any symptoms. Think I’ll taper it off and see.

Which gets me down to just three..all of which are actually needed
 
This may help you Roger

Proton Pump Inhibitors (PPIs) review and step-down (Guidelines) | Right Decisions

www.rightdecisions.scot.nhs.uk www.rightdecisions.scot.nhs.uk

Or this one
www.tampabayrefluxcenter.com

What Alcohol Does to Your Digestive System: Is That Drink Worth It? — Tampa Bay Reflux Center

How much alcohol is safe to drink daily, What does alcohol do to your body, What is the highest risk
www.tampabayrefluxcenter.com www.tampabayrefluxcenter.com

I'm only just, today, looking at these myself before trying to see the doctor - I've no idea what the alcohol bit has to do with it (in the 2nd link) but it does mention omeprazole etc.

Best to be taking medical advice but something to go from...
 
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I have mixed faith in the N.H.S. The points made above re practice nurses overstepping their training and competency resonate strongly with me.
Equally, the over-worked practice G.P.'s here are excellent, and when one is in dire straits, they move fast and effectively. They are let down by their lay Staff. I am still waiting for my liver enzymes, eGfr, HbAc1 etc assays, due on March 1st. Somebody clerical somewhere, has b*ll*xed, and deleted the appointment I watched a G.P. make on their screen.
 
The impression I have of our medical practice is that many things get farmed out to nurses rather than to the doctor to refer to.

You have to fill out a long form for what 'ailments' you may be suffering from, answering (tick type boxes) for such and submit it for someone to decide if you can get a same day appointment or in X days time to be seen by who they deem suitable - nurse instead of doctor! In maybe upto 2 weeks time...

When you see whoever you then have to tell them again what you're there for!
 
Accipiter said:
You have to fill out a long form for what 'ailments' you may be suffering from, answering (tick type boxes) for such and submit it for someone to decide if you can get a same day appointment or in X days time to be seen by who they deem suitable - nurse instead of doctor! In maybe upto 2 weeks time...

When you see whoever you then have to tell them again what you're there for!
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Not at my surgery. If I need an urgent, same day appointment I can always get one; all I need to do is to let the receptionist know roughly what it's about and I can get an appointment with my doc the same day - Rob
 
RogerS said:
Routine testing as you suggest is only needed if other factors are presenting, your age, dosage etc etc
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Interesting.

I had been getting reflux for quite some time and using the usual ant acid pills when the doc prescribed Omeprazole and it stopped the reflux almost immediately and I've now taken 1 tablet every morning for a number of years. A close friend died of esophageal which was horrible, caused he was told by reflux so for me it was a no brainer and still is tbh. On first prescribing, the GP told me I needed to be checked once a year particularly for potassium levels linked to taking Omaprezole and to regularly eat bananas to offset that.

I do get an annual check and blood tests but now also linked to BP and other ailments that have presented since.

As an aside, after getting my X-rays done same day a week past Friday I chased up the results still not received by the GP. The X-ray dept is in the room directly below the surgery and sent electronically. :rolleyes: So I rang radiology to be told "they haven't been reported on it's not 10 days yet". Yes it is says I. "not 10 working days, they should be received next Friday". So sitting on someone's to do at the last possible minute list.
 
I also took omeprazole for some years. Was diagnosed (incorrectly) with oesophageal cancer about 20 years ago. Death sentence at the time. In reality it turned out to be Barretts caused by acid reflux, itself caused by a congenitally faulty stomach / pipe valve. Prof. Bailey at Guildford Hospital did a Nissen Fundoplication op and I've just recently had to have that re-done. I found that omeprazole stopped the acidity but not the reflux. What did stop the reflux was losing a shed load of weight. Barretts receded so I don't take it now.

My GP is excellent. Can always see her when I want. We have become friends, which probably helps.
 
Woodbloke said:
Not at my surgery. If I need an urgent, same day appointment I can always get one; all I need to do is to let the receptionist know roughly what it's about and I can get an appointment with my doc the same day - Rob
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My comment may have been misleading to some degree. If urgent then, when filling the form/questions *some* of your responses can bring up that "your symptoms would appear that you need urgent attention. Dial 999 or 101 ..."

Some cases do get same day appointments but it could be either face to face OR telephone. Again, someone in the practice decides.

Form filling opens at 7am - not before as, if urgent, you're expected to dial 999 etc. At some point in the morning the form won't be available and as message will state "all appointments filled for the day". However you can still try phoning... and get an appointment.

It's a funny system at Frome Med Practice... Google search for them to see 😎
 
I've been on proton pump thingies for 25years for acid reflux. I've always wanted to get off them so have tried every snake oil going. I thought I'd cracked it a while ago whilst trialing various pre/pro biotics. I managed to taper off the medication and felt fine for a couple of weeks. Then it suddenly came back with a vengance. I was chomping on rennies and swigging gaviscon just to get a bit relief.
 
Accipiter said:
This may help you Roger

Proton Pump Inhibitors (PPIs) review and step-down (Guidelines) | Right Decisions

www.rightdecisions.scot.nhs.uk www.rightdecisions.scot.nhs.uk

Or this one
www.tampabayrefluxcenter.com

What Alcohol Does to Your Digestive System: Is That Drink Worth It? — Tampa Bay Reflux Center

How much alcohol is safe to drink daily, What does alcohol do to your body, What is the highest risk
www.tampabayrefluxcenter.com www.tampabayrefluxcenter.com

I'm only just, today, looking at these myself before trying to see the doctor - I've no idea what the alcohol bit has to do with it (in the 2nd link) but it does mention omeprazole etc.

Best to be taking medical advice but something to go from...
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Thanks for the links, Frank, although they've messed up the alcohol link.

Reading the ins and outs I think it is now debatable whether I have ever had acid reflux - silent or otherwise. Issues to do with my voice can easily be explained by nearly having my head cut off as a result of a gliding incident - courtesy of the Chief Flying Officer. My displaced Adam's Apple is witness to the event
 
wallace said:
I've been on proton pump thingies for 25years for acid reflux. I've always wanted to get off them so have tried every snake oil going. I thought I'd cracked it a while ago whilst trialing various pre/pro biotics. I managed to taper off the medication and felt fine for a couple of weeks. Then it suddenly came back with a vengance. I was chomping on rennies and swigging gaviscon just to get a bit relief.
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Well it’s not a snake oil but it certainly worked for me, table spoon of Raw Apple Cider Vinegar mixed with something sweet in water each morning.but it needs to be unpasteurised with the Mother. I used Braggs.
After about two weeks it had gone, that was a couple of years ago now.
Ian
 
Cabinetman said:
Well it’s not a snake oil but it certainly worked for me, table spoon of Raw Apple Cider Vinegar mixed with something sweet in water each morning.but it needs to be unpasteurised with the Mother. I used Braggs.
After about two weeks it had gone, that was a couple of years ago now.
Ian
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Raw apple cider vinegar with the mother is, the bees knees. Amazing stuff and well shared. AFAIK it has so many many benefits... Defo not snake oil.

Thing with health is, there isn't a 'magic bullet' that fixes everything. One can't (and not referring to anyone or anything said on this here thread) expect to have a slumber/poor lifestyle choices for years and years and then suddenly one thing comes along and fixes everything.

My take is that health is a cumulative effect of lots of little things combined. We abuse our body for 40+ years and then expect such and such medication/remedy to fix us in just a few short days/weeks. Sometimes it works out but generally, we just have to remain positive and keep doing the right thing everyday.
 
*with the mother* had me confused... searched Google which came up with:

AI Overview
Apple cider vinegar (ACV) with "the mother" is raw, unfiltered, and unpasteurized vinegar that contains a visible, cloudy sediment floating inside it. This "mother" is a natural, web-like colony of beneficial bacteria, yeast, and enzymes formed during the fermentation process.

The production of vinegar involves two main steps:
1/ Yeast is added to crushed apples, fermenting the natural sugars into alcohol.

2/ Bacteria (Acetobacter) are introduced, which convert that alcohol into acetic acid.

"The mother" is the culture of these beneficial bacteria. Here is why it is the most valued part of the vinegar:

Why It Matters

Nutrient-Dense: Conventional, filtered vinegars look clear and are pasteurized, which strips away many of the enzymes, proteins, and trace minerals. The mother retains all of this natural goodness.

Gut Health: Because it contains live probiotics and beneficial bacteria, it acts as a popular natural supplement for balancing the gut microbiome and aiding digestion.

Proven Compounds: The mother floats in a liquid rich in acetic acid, which is the primary active compound responsible for vinegar's health properties.

Potential Health Benefits & Uses

While research is ongoing, ACV with the mother is frequently linked to several wellness benefits:

Blood Sugar Management: It may help improve glycemic status and reduce blood sugar spikes after high-carb meals.

Heart Health: Some clinical trials suggest it can help lower total cholesterol and triglyceride levels.

Culinary Uses: It is ideal for raw applications like vinaigrettes, salad dressings, and quick-pickling.

How to Consume It

If you want to drink it for its potential wellness benefits, always dilute it in water first. Drinking undiluted ACV is highly acidic and can cause acid reflux or erode tooth enamel. A common recipe is mixing 1 to 2 teaspoons of ACV with "the mother" into a glass of warm water, sometimes adding a squeeze of lemon or honey.

You can find raw, unfiltered apple cider vinegar with the mother at local supermarkets or health food shops
 
Cabinetman said:
Well it’s not a snake oil but it certainly worked for me, table spoon of Raw Apple Cider Vinegar mixed with something sweet in water each morning.but it needs to be unpasteurised with the Mother. I used Braggs.
After about two weeks it had gone, that was a couple of years ago now.
Ian
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Willing to give it a try... thanks Ian for sharing
 
Cabinetman said:
Hope it works for you, I used to take mine with Maple Syrup- helps to make it a bit more palatable! Adding an acid to a stomach acid problem seems ridiculous but definitely worked for me.
Good luck Ian
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If you get raw/organic honey then (again, IMO and not wanting to argue it out with anyone) we're getting the extra benefit of another antibacterial with countless benefits into the system.

I couldn't afford the stuff from RawHoneyShop all the time so ended up settling on some organic Zambian honey. Doesn't necessarily taste the best but my testing found it to have a very high level of enzyme activity (well it fought away my athletes foot and constant chest infections like nobody's business).

Apple cider vinegar, massive dollop of unfiltered raw (mountainous, organic) honey. Fresh spring water. Shaken not stirred on an empty stomach in the morn... lovely 😍
 
Accipiter said:
*with the mother* had me confused... searched Google which came up with:

AI Overview
Apple cider vinegar (ACV) with "the mother" is raw, unfiltered, and unpasteurized vinegar that contains a visible, cloudy sediment floating inside it. This "mother" is a natural, web-like colony of beneficial bacteria, yeast, and enzymes formed during the fermentation process.

The production of vinegar involves two main steps:
1/ Yeast is added to crushed apples, fermenting the natural sugars into alcohol.

2/ Bacteria (Acetobacter) are introduced, which convert that alcohol into acetic acid.

"The mother" is the culture of these beneficial bacteria. Here is why it is the most valued part of the vinegar:

Why It Matters

Nutrient-Dense: Conventional, filtered vinegars look clear and are pasteurized, which strips away many of the enzymes, proteins, and trace minerals. The mother retains all of this natural goodness.

Gut Health: Because it contains live probiotics and beneficial bacteria, it acts as a popular natural supplement for balancing the gut microbiome and aiding digestion.

Proven Compounds: The mother floats in a liquid rich in acetic acid, which is the primary active compound responsible for vinegar's health properties.

Potential Health Benefits & Uses

While research is ongoing, ACV with the mother is frequently linked to several wellness benefits:

Blood Sugar Management: It may help improve glycemic status and reduce blood sugar spikes after high-carb meals.

Heart Health: Some clinical trials suggest it can help lower total cholesterol and triglyceride levels.

Culinary Uses: It is ideal for raw applications like vinaigrettes, salad dressings, and quick-pickling.

How to Consume It

If you want to drink it for its potential wellness benefits, always dilute it in water first. Drinking undiluted ACV is highly acidic and can cause acid reflux or erode tooth enamel. A common recipe is mixing 1 to 2 teaspoons of ACV with "the mother" into a glass of warm water, sometimes adding a squeeze of lemon or honey.

You can find raw, unfiltered apple cider vinegar with the mother at local supermarkets or health food shops
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Afraid that AI you used, Frank, is at odds with ChatGPT

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As you may gather I'm a little bit obsessed with online medical statements without references. So I asked ChatGPT the following question...


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which from a scientific perspective is pretty solid. Especially when the next paragraph offered to dive deeper

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My 'thing' regarding this was started when the Coeliac Society published a document stating that wheat-sugar was OK for coeliacs....this myth being carried on by results from Google's AI. Out of curiosity is that the AI that you used above? There has only been one study to evaluate whether or not wheat sugar is OK for coeliacs. Carried out by a Professor in Finalnd who, when asked by me, confirmed that the size of the study cohort was very low 10-15 people, that only one type of wheat sugar was used and that it was not chosen at random but supplied by the industry. Not very scientific.
 
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