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Diesel car ban

I wonder what is going to happen for classic car lovers over the next few years :-(

And those that could never afford a new car ? .. I've never bought a new car in my life, and really wouldn't want to.

I've already seen a hit on old diesels camper vans with the LEZ's etc. luckily I have a petrol one too, if I need to collect something from london , that's too big for a hatch back
 
Interesting poll. 81% of voters agree with me that diesel cars should not be banned.

Where does the Govt think that those on a pension will get the money from to buy a new car?

And where is the refund from the Govt to those who bought a diesel because the Govt encouraged us to do so?

Lastly, is there a hybrid 4x4 with very large carrying capacity like my Discovery ? That is affordable ? Mmmmm...thought not.

And really lastly this time, where is the electricity infrastructure and generating capacity to feed all those electric cars? Seem to recall reading an article about local brown-outs when lots of people plugged their cars in.

On the bright side, by 2030 I'll probably be pushing up the daisies :D
 
I think most manufacturers are bringing out a range. Volvo are and BMW already have their iPerformce versions throughout their range - no idea of prices though.

Rod
 
Eventually the price will be immaterial as folks won't own cars but just call up an autonomous vehicle when required. Folks in remote areas will just have to go back to the horse and cart. :lol:
 
Woodster":3dumswuj said:
Only just seen this:

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/car ... ns-for-you

"Government officials are keen for diesel cars to be removed from British roads by 2030"

And.

"negativity surrounding the fuel type (Diesel) has already cost drivers £35 billion in lost vehicle value"

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars ... -cars.html
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Good. I had one diesel motor and wouldn't buy another; the writing is on the wall for the ic engine whichever way you slice it. What worries me more is that diesels will still be needed for heavy goods haulage, railways and maritime use, which will still produce a huge amount of pollution, not to mention the vast amount generated by flying. Guilty as charged, m'lud - Rob
 
A LOT of very sophisticated engineering goes into a modern car diesel engine to make it run with comparable performance to a petrol engine. I remember the clonky old diesel cars of the 70s and 80s - noisy, poor acceleration, vibration at tickover that could loosen your fillings, etc., etc. Not for me thanks; I like things simple.

Mind you - having said that, I have no idea what is going on under the bonnet of my (petrol) Mazda 6. An engine bay crammed full of mysterious electronic stuff. It used to be a lot simpler when I had my first car, a Mini. I wouldn't think twice about taking the head off and giving it a decoke, or tweaking the carb, or whatever. Good thing the missus worked on a Saturday - the things that went on on her kitchen table..... :lol: I wouldn't have a clue where to start nowadays.
 
selector tone":lwd9ht9i said:
....It used to be a lot simpler when I had my first car, a Mini. I wouldn't think twice about taking the head off and giving it a decoke, or tweaking the carb, or whatever. I wouldn't have a clue where to start nowadays.
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Ditto. My first car was also one of the early Mini's...great fun to drive and maintain. I even installed a mono 'hi-fi' system. Cut a large hole (8") in the rear parcel shelf to mount my speaker. Made a mono Quad 33 pre-amp from scratch, a Sinclair ZX-30 (IIRC) all mounted under an aluminium panel in that drivers door pocket .. audio from a cassette recorder.

The diesel in the Discovery sounds like a 'bus engine. It needs a fortnights notice to overtake something. But hey...does it matter? Just potter.
 
selectortone":2h8b8iu2 said:
It used to be a lot simpler when I had my first car, a Mini. I wouldn't think twice about taking the head off and giving it a decoke, or tweaking the carb, or whatever. Good thing the missus worked on a Saturday - the things that went on on her kitchen table..... :lol:
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First car was Triumph Herald. Had to change the engine because it threw a piston. But it was the BSA and Triumph before that that had things on the kitchen table - and in the oven to heat the bearings or the casings they went in! :D
 
First vehicle, back in 1961, was an A35 Van in British Racing Green - same A series engine they later fitted to the Mini.
Used to do most of the servicing (including fitting a new subframe to a Mini) until I started getting company cars in 1990.
Switched to diesels later as the company I worked for had its own supply and there had been petrol shortages and threat of rationing.
Modern diesels are great, gave better mpg and can be very pokey when required.
I've nothing against electric ones but their ranged is limited and they are very expensive even with the Gov's grant.

Rod
 
Have to confess that I am thinking about an electric car as our journeys are very local. Only started looking but picked up that at least one car (manufacturer?) lease the batteries to you for £79 a month. That would be a no-no as far as I was concerned.
 
RogerS":xri91liy said:
Only started looking but picked up that at least one car (manufacturer?) lease the batteries to you for £79 a month. That would be a no-no as far as I was concerned.
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I think that would be a problem for many people unless it reduces the overall cost of purchasing the rest of the vehicle significantly.
 
Had a look at the BMW range. But for one to accommodate 2 old timers with ease of access and comfort for every day use, theres nothing sub £50K and to have £30K depreciation in 2 years. Forget it not even Festool falls into that category.
It looks like leasing maybe the answer.

Richard
 
124mph and 10 laps long ;) While the top speed is fine for a road going vehicle, distance on an electric bike is never going to be functional as there is nowhere to store the necessary number of batteries. I commute 90 miles each way daily by bike - 180 miles a day. Never going to be possible on an electric bike and currently impossible in an electric car (although the new Tesla spec suggests this might be just about possible). I reckon IC engines or hybrid cars will be common enough until I retire in 2035ish to not worry about it - otherwise I will have to convince SWMBO to move closer to where I work!

Steve
 
StevieB":j3egzp26 said:
..... I commute 90 miles each way daily by bike - 180 miles a day. ...... :o
Steve
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StevieB":1chq9b47 said:
124mph and 10 laps long ;) While the top speed is fine for a road going vehicle, distance on an electric bike is never going to be functional as there is nowhere to store the necessary number of batteries. I commute 90 miles each way daily by bike - 180 miles a day. Never going to be possible on an electric bike and currently impossible in an electric car (although the new Tesla spec suggests this might be just about possible). I reckon IC engines or hybrid cars will be common enough until I retire in 2035ish to not worry about it - otherwise I will have to convince SWMBO to move closer to where I work!

Steve
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Surely you would not want the Lecky to power you the whole way, just give you a boost on those up hilly bits and against head winds. What the extra payload of the batteries takes out of you when not being used I do not know.
 
Andyp":2v1ugfs0 said:
StevieB":2v1ugfs0 said:
124mph and 10 laps long ;) While the top speed is fine for a road going vehicle, distance on an electric bike is never going to be functional as there is nowhere to store the necessary number of batteries. I commute 90 miles each way daily by bike - 180 miles a day. Never going to be possible on an electric bike and currently impossible in an electric car (although the new Tesla spec suggests this might be just about possible). I reckon IC engines or hybrid cars will be common enough until I retire in 2035ish to not worry about it - otherwise I will have to convince SWMBO to move closer to where I work!

Steve
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Surely you would not want the Lecky to power you the whole way, just give you a boost on those up hilly bits and against head winds. What the extra payload of the batteries takes out of you when not being used I do not know.
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Pas de problème

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Chaps - by Bike I obviously meant Motorbike (180 miles cycling would kill me) - pretty sure you knew this and were being ironic, but for the avoidance of doubt...... ;)
 
StevieB":21jojnin said:
Chaps - by Bike I obviously meant Motorbike (180 miles cycling would kill me) - pretty sure you knew this and were being ironic, but for the avoidance of doubt...... ;)
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Nope, I absolutely thought you meant cycle, and was immensely astonished at that level of commitment!

Cheers
Mark
 
Just need to rewire the country. Read an article mentioning an 11KW charger. A mere 48 amps from the mains.

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I guess they could make domestic charging stations, which charge through the day to buffer that big surge needed when you plug the car(s) in. super capacitors or something
 
"Today we fill up our cars with petrol from pumps at filling stations, but for the first 25 years of British motoring such things didn't exist. Instead, you could only buy petrol in two-gallon cans from chemists, hardware shops and hotels, as well as from garages. Then petrol filling stations began to appear"

https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/ ... ng-station
 
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