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Dust extraction.

Mike G

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Last week, in machining up a whole lot of bog oak, I suffered an absolute workshop catastrophy:

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Now, the thing is, I've got a perfectly good extractor mounted in the corner of my workshop, wired up, and working:

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I'm sure I must have posted about it previously. I got it from DaveL, when he upgraded to a bigger one, and I had mounted it on a custom made plenum and chimney-thing. Years ago. Goodness, maybe 3 or 4 years ago. I've no idea really. It has just sat there occupying space ever since, because I had never bothered plumbing in any ducting. Well, two full days cleaning up the workshop after the bog oak catastrophe quickly convinced me that it was time to get some extraction sorted. When I say cleaning.......I took every piece of wood out of my off cut store, and brushed and hoovered them individually. I took a bucket and sponge to my bench. The place was a disaster.

I only use 2 machines (well, if you don't count the lathe). The bandsaw and the planer/ thicknesser needed connecting to the extractor. How difficult could that be? Here they are:

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Note the plenum of the extractor in the top right hand corner above my pillar drill.

I bought some ducting and some joints, and made a plan:

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I decided to have a pair of blast gates on the side of the plenum, and have separate pipes go off to the bandsaw, and to the P/T. I made a fairly simple pair of blast gates mainly out of 1/2" ply:

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That last photo gives the impression I glued it together, but this was just a test to see if it moved freely enough. I had to sand a bit of thickness out of the gates. They are to be screwed together only, so that if anything goes wrong I can take it all apart and repair it. I cut a hole in the plenum:

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......and screwed the blast gates into place:

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I had forgotten to buy the fitting for attaching ducting to a bulkhead, so I snipped the ends of the first pipe, applied some heat, and did a little bending:

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I made a couple of retaining rings out of ply:

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I failed to take a photo of the support frame I made from roofing batten, to hold the other end of the pipe, but here is the pipe as it meets the plenum:

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I had ordered only 45 degree joins to avoid dramatic changes of direction, so working out the length of the various pieces was a bit tricky. Here it is propped for the night to allow the Hippo 3 adhesive on the joints to set:

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The following day I did the flexi:

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It was a complete pain to get the Jubilee clips to sit properly, but that aside, all went well. That was the bandsaw done. On to the PT.......
 
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The ducting was so short and easy that I seem to have overlooked taking a photo. What was slightly more complicated was the collection from the machine. This was my previous set up:

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The chippings and dust just sprayed over the floor. After a bit of thought, I came up with a collector which would go under the table when I was planing, and over the table when I was thickenssing. Here's it coming together:

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Then it gets turned upside down to go under:

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I had bought a round-to-rectangular adaptor, and fitted this with Hippo 3 and some screws:

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Once I had a lid on it, I connected up the flexi:

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Fine for the thicknesser...but the pipe hung in the way when it was used under the table for the planer:

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I ended up adding a 45 degree bend and a short piece of pipe to get it out of the way:

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Of course, that would point 90 degrees away from where it needs to go when it was the other way up, so I've annoyingly added another step in the change-over process: I have to pull the hose out, and poke it back in again whenever I change. Trivial, but annoying.

I did a trial run, and ostensibly, it worked well. However, when I looked inside.........:

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There was a build up of chippings, and this necessitated adding a sloped piece from the bottom to the underside of the hole. The photo I took was completely out of focus. You'll have to use your imagination:

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The final job was an extension onto the top of by existing blade guard, so connect with the new extraction terminal thingy:

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So finally, here it is in the "under" poisition:

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And here it is in the "over" position:

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I don't like working ON the workshop. It feels like a waste of time compared with working IN the workshop. So, I'm glad this job is out of the way......but I am also glad that I won't have to spend 2 days cleaning the workshop ever again.

All that's left to do is to change the swith on the extractor to make it a bit more convenient.
 

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That's lots of work but will pay off in the long run. I keep putting off sorting out my workspace but attention such as this ultimately allows you to work more efficiently and safely.

Have you thought about a switch like this to turn on extraction automatically. For me it would be more about just remembering to turn on the fan as I sometimes forget when using the bandsaw.

 
I am correct in assuming that hood will only be useable on your PT when doing short pieces? Or do I misunderstand how you are planning to use it?
 
I am correct in assuming that hood will only be useable on your PT when doing short pieces? Or do I misunderstand how you are planning to use it?
No, it's completely out of the way so doesn't restrict the length I can plane or thickness.
 
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......Have you thought about a switch like this to turn on extraction automatically. For me it would be more about just remembering to turn on the fan as I sometimes forget when using the bandsaw.


Interesting idea, but I'm going to use a pull switch hanging from the beams......because I've got an old one already. It's how I used to switch the vacuum on and off in my previous workshop, and it worked well.
 
Looks good, particularly like the blast gates. Sorry to say though I think you will get tired of getting in there to change the bag, a job I really hate, and I had three really big ones, some people use a hose attachment to vacuum the floor etc but that just means emptying the bag more often - no thanks!
Note to self, check if it needs emptying yet?
 
Nice upgrade to the workshop, and excellent idea on the pull switch.
My pull is up high so it misses my head and every time I use it I’m making a movement my body wouldn’t normally make, I’m convinced it’s help me cut down on back problems.
 
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