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Outfitting a Startrite 275 tablesaw... (overhead tablesaw guard)

TomTrees

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Hello folks
I was going to keep updating my overhead crown guard post, but thought better to
post a separate thread about my machine upgrades, since I haven't studied many since then.
I will mention however, that I've seen the pinnacle of design regarding this subject,
if anyone would like to see ScottyT's "Robinson ET/E Saw" then that answers that. :D

So with that figured out already, I can forget about wasting my time looking for comparisons.
as the best of the best has absolutely been done already.

I've since made some changes to my mobile base, in aim to accommodate doing things the hard way, i.e a separate mount for the guard, though predicting in hindsight, it might have been better
to make some exo-skeleton for the 275 and mounted the bracket to that...
as the base isn't built like a Sedgwick, but something more resemblant to that of a biscuit tin.

Very happy with those changes made, as there's no faffery involved with the moving of the machine now, compared to the simple coasters which didn't work very well atall.
(with a nod to Carl Holmgren for the inspiration)
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Making some feet, I took another wee bit off the height, but just to show a poor mans height gauge.
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Now with those feet captured, no stooping and fishing under the machine to find the coasters ever again.
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I think I'll save ye the misery at my learning experience, making the bracket, that is...
but to say, I think I've got that down by now, and the mention of making things up as I go along
(making a housing) is a recipe for time wasting, without the full picture.
Basically saying, don't try and make precision U channel, as I've had three go's at that,
before the design is figured out, as it might be a heck of a lot easier to make a box from the get go, i.e a welders approach.
Still not without the nitty gritty I might add, plenty of scraping...again. :lol:
Ooh, forgot to mention, I'll never use aluminium for spacers when welding again.
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UMHW, and stainless shim/protector for locking bolt, should the need arise.
The boom got a bit loose when extended, though I was considering this beforehand anyway.
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Now with things sliding nicely, (my back hurts right now, lol)
I could fettle things properly.
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First time I've ever levelled my bench!
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And a rough dressing of the platform of the base.
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I even splashed out and got meself another level, a knockoff of the Stabila, which is likely an older design.
Spent a goodly amount of time getting it right, though I know it won't be when the machine is
moved from this exact location,
This being the only part of the floor that was level, which took some trial and error to find,
hence the new shoes for the job.
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I can't wait to get the base painted, and be able to stow the saw away,
but some more wee jobs needed first before that.
The next posts of the previous work will explain things more clearly.

Tom
 
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Here's some previous work from last year, spurred on by the acquisition of some old gates.
Be a waste to let them rot outside, so now I've lots of box iron for various things.
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Got rid of the ol paddle, for a favourable alternative,
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...and to mention I won't be buying spraypaint ever again if I can help it.
Authentic hand dripped and finger painted finished patina :cry:
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A plonking start made on the wing of the saw,
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To accommodate a new VFD enclosure, as the old one wasn't the best at keeping out the dust,
so wasn't going to be much good at the front of the machine this time round,
This being necessary due to the guard design

(note: these specs I've drawn, is slightly undersized, well...according to the manual)
I've since read these enclosures should be seven times the size of the unit.
I suppose that might be more important if using a machine under industrial settings,
Not much relevant to me, seeing as my leccy supply wouldn't be up to that.
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And the fact this is all the stainless I have for the job,
I suppose I can modify it at a later date if need be.
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Made a few schoolboy errors whilst marking up, i.e..
1. measured up from the existing fold at the end, on the inside, rather than the outside,
2. didn't use a sliding bevel to mark the mitres out from the straight edge of the material,
so some compensation needed, good job I allowed for it.
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Continued...
 
Just about squeezes in there
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And likewise for the enclosure itself
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And just enough material left for the front and the back
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Some kerf cutting needed due to my errors marking out
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fitting the back
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And reused the old hinges from the last one
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I left the rest for later on, as I wanted to mount the enclosure & VFD to the frame,
in order to get the window looking right, since the box wasn't exactly square.
Though I might as well document this part in the one go.
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Making a start on the window retainers
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Finished off this bend with a big ol'cold chisel.
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and a few tacks thereafter
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With that nearly finished
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going back to the work on the frame
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Some tabs for levelling and affixing the extension wing
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Not the first of the few altercations necessary, as making a three legged table
turned out to be a PITA :twisted:
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Here's the material for the top which I prepared earlier, in order to get that frame level
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It's not affixed yet, as I wanted to get everything bolted down first,
and that means another bracket fixing the frame to the guard.
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That's caught up to where I'm at, hopefully plane sailing regarding the rest of things
now.
It'll be interesting to see how level the top stays, when the machine has been moved.
I'm thinking I can grind a few spots level on the floor, so it's not really much of an issue.

Tom
 
Phil":15170rbe said:
Interesting :D

Way beyond my skills level :(

Thanks Phil, though I'll have to take the first sentence as a challenge as of yet! :lol:
and I'm not sure I'd agree about any skills either, :eusa-think:
as this project has been nothing but plonking away at things, and the resulting nitty gritty
half blind grinding with foggy glasses, oodles of choppy changies, blobbing welds on
not anywhere I planned, and grinding them off again, and having another crack at it,
and scraping with the end of a file, and basically rinse and repeat kinda thing.

Perhaps you might have intended the compliment for Dr Al, with those lovely welds and all the precision work.
Not to mention how darn fast he is at something which would take me forever.
(I've been at this job for a long time, and not just a month or two) :oops:

Cabinetman":15170rbe said:
There’s not much stops you Tom!
Thanks Ian, though I was waiting to post something of interest along with my reply,
but forcing that box iron through the housing actually did stop me for two days,
and my chest and back got a right workout, and I could barely blow me nose without being in agony, lol, though before that, I was intending to say...
well... a 12" circular saw certainly could be a likely candidate!

along with some pics I was looking for, of my lessons learned,
namely, not using aluminium for a spacer whilst welding, ever again,
as I made myself the box iron equivalent of a Chinese finger trap! :eusa-doh:
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First cuts on some new plate for the workshop, courtesy of me folks old stove/come furnace.
For a wee bracket that is, possibly the last bit o'welding on this housing?
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More plonkery, and the following nitty gritty, and just about wrestled it into submission
again, though still a bit of a fight.
Which surely simplified any procrastination I've been doing, concerning welding a mounting bracket for an outfeed, that'll likely have to be either onto the cabinet of the saw, or separate
free standing solution, not got to that bit yet.
Still possibly not the last of the scraping, as I just may have to weld a nut for locking the boom,
leaving that for the minute yet, as the outfeed may hinder access, should I decide it might be
preferable on the machine.
Glad to be finished with that housing for now anyway.
Eager to get some more productive stuff on the machine done for the meanwhile.
i.e not the usual two steps forward, one step back, kinda thing.
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Tom
 
Hello folks,
Getting back to working on this machine now, so might as well post some of the work I've done in the time since
which I'm sure most of you have seen.
Just getting things out of the way, in order to make some up to date posts soon enough.
Got an insert installed onto the extension.
Thread here...
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Which came in useful for building a fence extrusion... (I haven't quite finished with tha yet though)

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Only started mocking up the overhead guard in the last week, and still unsure of what design I'll be making,
though did decide on the height of the boom at least, so started getting to work on it.

The perspex scavenging's from the fence thread in the background, will likely be utilized for the crown guard section.
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19" seemed just about the right height, to suit reasonable thickness planks at around the max depth of the bandsaw
(with guides removed, that is)
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Some threads what may be of interest regarding the design of such

Two from the Felder owners group, which may also be of interest aswell...

Another thing what might be of interest is this little jig, once the hole is marked out & spot drilled by handheld drill,
can then be transferred to the pillar drill for indexed drilling.
(why ever they don't make a drill with lateral stops on the column is very strange)
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Positioned and clamped down for use of the next size bits.
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Swing table away and change bits, back against the stop with no need for guessing.
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Not much left of that auld stove top now.
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Just getting things welded up, and then can move on to the next component of the guard.
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Cheerio

All the best
Tom
 
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