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Record Vice

Phil

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Refurbishment of a Record Vice
(this is part of a bigger project which I have the pics but just not the time to write)

Laid my hands on an old Record wood vice, which was in shocking condition.
It was all gunged up with glue and paint, the jaws just would not move.

Eventually, lots of WD40, coaxing, blue air I got them apart and could strip it down.


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The question:- what does one put onto the round bar slides for easy operation and also prevent rust?
Your advice would be appreciated.

Cheers
Phil
 
Hi

I have the same vice and will probably refurb is when time permits.

For the moment I've just cleaned the decades of 'peanut butter' (grease and sawdust)

I have used a light coating of FK1000p car 'wax' (more of a sealant really) which I use on the CI saw tables with good effect.

It seems to allow smooth operation without letting dust/muck stick to it.

I also use on an engineering vice the PTFE spray which leaves a lovely smooth/slippy action.
 
Most of the threads that come into contact with dust, shavings etc I use PTFE spray lub.
Must check my vice ( which works fine) as I've no idea what's on that - haven't lubed it in years?

Rod
 
:D That looks pristine compared to a couple I've cleaned up. Just clean the bars off and wipe with wax or light oil of some description. If you look after the vice it won't get dirty again anyway.
 
Thanks for the help, I will try some PTFE spray when I assemble it.

HC, I try my utmost best not to mess glue on everything.

Cheers
Phil
 
Well, done what needs to be done, cleaned, painted and started assembling.

New face plates made from some scrap MDF and then treated with boiled linseed oil.

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Back jaw being fitted

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Quick release unit

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Completed ready for fitting to the top.

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It now needs to be screwed to the top, but will have to wait until the top and cabinet have been completed,

Cheers
Phil
 
Nice job - not sure about the MDF as the edges might be a bit crumbly? Easily replaced though.
I used beech on mine with the outer one thick enough to take some 20mm dogs.

Rod
 
Looks good! :eusa-clap:

I have to refurb. mine, then I will finish the work bench I made- planning on edging it with oak allowing for a replaceable top surface.

I really like the idea of thick front piece for dogs. Mine has the extendable flat dog but I think and extended front piece could be really versatile.
 
Rod":34mgqdkz said:
Nice job - not sure about the MDF as the edges might be a bit crumbly? Easily replaced though.
I used beech on mine with the outer one thick enough to take some 20mm dogs.

Rod
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Thanks guys.

When I replace I will also look at thicker face plates from something more substantial than MDF.

Cheers
Phil
 
The vice is now fitted to the new top. (that thread is still being assembled!)

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I the turned the top over (with some help as it is slightly heavy) and tried the vice out.

What a flipping disappointment. It turns fine up to a point and then skips a beat, turns, skips a beat. You can see the long fast release plate thing jumping.
I did a 12 sec video on the camera, but at 30mb will not be uploading it.

Any ideas, thoughts on what would cause this?

All help would appreciated.

Cheers
Phil
(who is on his way with wife to look at the house progress and will get back to workshop tomorrow)
 
Is the spring the right way round on the quick release mechanism?

I'm wondering if when it's under load it's allowing the locking tooth to gradually move.


I'm sorry but it's a year or so since I took mine apart and I've forgotten the layout!

If I get time tomorrow I will try to unbolt it from my bench and take a look.

Sorry to not be more helpful!
 
If the spring is fitted correctly, then considerable effort should be required to move the quick release lever towards the adjusting screw.
Did it work OK before you took it apart?

Like Stephen, mine has not seen the light of day for a while and I can't recall the exact layout.
The screw thread is a buttress type and the QR mechanism has part of a match thread on. these need to be clean and not worn away from the original vertical portion of the thread.
You can possibly file the nut part to clean up any wear if needed but be careful with modifying the male thread.

Bob
 
Thanks Stephen, Thanks Bob.

I will borrow the manpower from next door to turn it over and then take it apart again.

Bob, when I got it, it was gunged solid with glue and paint, certainly could not budge anything.

Cheers
Phil
 
Ok, got some help to get the top off the bench and turned over.

Then started turning the handle to see what the problem is.
Looks like the lifting plate is bent and that could be causing the beat skips.

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Took it all to pieces again and decided to drill out the pin thing that holds the handle onto the shaft.
Slow progress on the one side and no progress on the other side. This pin thing is made from extra-super-duper hardened metal!

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Then the drill bit broke.
Silence, sweat, that was flipping close (my hand) The broken bit just missed my hand and the side of the drill slammed into the top part of the thumb (the site of 2 major joint ops years ago) No foul language, just shock, switched everything off and walked away.

Maybe the vice works ok just skipping a beat.

Cheers
Phil
 
DaveL":2nhbs6ht said:
Walking away was the best option, take another look tomorrow.
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Definitely, as I have destroyed a lot of stuff over the years with my little frustration-temper.

Will have another look at it this afternoon.

Cheers
Phil
 
Well, ok, so take a step back (calmer today) and look again.

Right in front of me on the spanner hooks is a big shifter and a big vice-grips.

A bit of elbow grease and force bends the lifting plate more or less straight.

Re-assemble and try it out.
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YES! It works.

Will get some help next weekend to lift the top back onto the base (working away at a factory the whole week)

Cheers
Phil
 
stephen.wood125":3kjvwwfn said:
Thats great news Phil! nice work. /i was wondering if leaving it connected and straightening in situ.

well done!
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Thanks Stephen, got some help yesterday and turned the top over onto the cabinet and screwed it down today.

Works very very well.
EXCEPT ...................
for the fast release, which does not want to cooperate.

At this stage I think I can live with it.

Cheers
Phil
 
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