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My next project requires sixteen mortice and tenon joints.

I'm in the market for a pre-loved mortice machine.

Any out there?

Malcolm
 
Spoilsport!!

Yes, that's for Plan B.

After all those hand ones I made years ago, I'd love to get more accurate with a morticer.

Malcolm
 
Malcolm,

I'd suggest that you steer clear of any of the imported machines based on two or even worse a single round column. For best accuracy/repeatability a cast iron rectangular column with dovetail guide slides is far superior.
An X-Y table and integral vice is also a nice to have feature.

Good luck in your search!

Bob
 
OK, then, Guys.

Here's a question.

I already have a Veritas router table going orange in the damp garage. I have a Trend 1/4" and a cheap 1/2" routers.

Given the choice, do I go for a Woodrat, a morticer or a Trend or Leigh jig, if I could only buy one of them.

Bearing in mind my next project requires M&T joints, but also some dovetails for the drawers.

Malcolm
 
Woodrats are quite multifunctional but do take a bit of getting used to and out of "fashion" at the moment.
You can cut mortices with a router using home made jigs.
I use an up-cut spiral carbide cutter and just file the tenon ends to match rather than trim out the mortices rectangular

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Made a few years back from local oak.

Rod
 
Given that you can easily cut mortices on the router table and you have one of those and assuming you don't want to do hand cut dovetails then I'd be looking to get a dovetail jig next.

The leigh is head and shoulders above the fixed spacing types trend et al but prices reflect that.

Go for 8mm leigh cutters (branded or clones) in the correct collet for your 1/2" router. Much much more rigid and stronger than 1/4 cutters that have very weak necks.
I'm doing a lot of DTs at the moment and the size I want is not available in 8mm so I'm hogging out the waste with a straight cutter and creeping up on the DT shape with the 1/4" cutter - 3 broken so far and I'm being very very careful.

Bob
 
The original thread got lost but I reposted just the pictures of my chairs build. All the mortices and tenons were done with the router using homemade jigs and templates.

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It worked well. If I was starting again I might go with a morticer but it wouldn't have been as flexible.

I have one of those junk morticers bought from toolstation that Bob refers to. It isn't that bad as long as you are aware of its limitations. just don't rely on the built in stops and work guides etc (make you own) and it is possible to be accurate with it.
 
Andyp":2nyxnhm2 said:
Malc I have a multico Pm12. Not sure if they are still made id the UK, mine was about 20 yrs ago. This is not mine btw but might be worth a bid perhaps.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MULTICO-PM12- ... SwiYFXI3Ic


Gents,

Thanks all of you. I think I'll go for a used mortice in the first instance and work my way up from there. The workshop isn't even built yet, so a bench machine can keep me going.

Andy, Thanks. I might just do that. Sounds like a good start. BTW, do you live on the wrong side of the river on the way to the terminal at Ouistreham? If so I passed by there about a month ago late for the ferry with my French twinning host cursing that there was a diversion and the swing bridge was closed!!

Malcolm
 
Indeed I do Malcolm. The closed bridge was the one at Collombelles closed for few days every year due to the outdoor music festival. You weren't to know that of course. The pretty alternative would be by Pegusus Bridge rather than the often choked Pont Calix on the boulevard periferique often choked at the best of times.

Next time you are passing please pop by and say hello.
 
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