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when is a plank a baulk?

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Is there a set dimension?
I've just bought the biggest "plank" I've ever had.

3.6 metres long, 24 cm x 5 cm.
Its white oak and bluddy heavy, but is it still a plank?
 
sunnybob":39cca5ai said:
Is there a set dimension?
I've just bought the biggest "plank" I've ever had.

3.6 metres long, 24 cm x 5 cm.
Its white oak and bluddy heavy, but is it still a plank?

I sort class a Baulk as being thicker than that and possibly not as long - or am I confusing that with Chunk? :lol:
Out of interest, what sort of money did you have to stump up?
My local one man band timber stockist quoted me the other day:-

"Good morning Bob, standard boards are around 8" wide and 3.6m long. Total cost for one plank is £98.50."

This was for 27mm sawn square edge euro oak so about half the quantity you bought.

Bob
 
I usually buy by the boule here in Germany, and the lengths you can get from the sawmill are huge compared to what I am used to in the UK. You can only get complete packs or boules. I would say what you have is just a board. At the moment im churning through some 40mm Beech and that is iver 4 meters long and some of it have been over 60cm. I picked up a 5 meters length of Oak at 80mm x 700 ish and it cost about €400 for a little more than a quarter cubic meter, but that was at the timber yard and they are more expensive.Its still just a board though.

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9fingers":o4dtyi3i said:
......."Good morning Bob, standard boards are around 8" wide and 3.6m long. Total cost for one plank is £98.50."

This was for 27mm sawn square edge euro oak so about half the quantity you bought.

Bob

Bob, if I've got my maths right that's about £5067 per cu m. The going rate is in the region of £1400 to £1750 per cu m. I hope you didn't buy that board, or, if you did, I hope it is a really extraordinary piece of wood.
 
Weren't baulks square and at least 8x8 English inches usually 12x12 or larger?

That was back in the days f the huge English cirkular rip saws. Because of slow transports and bad communications timbers were hewn or sawn in the Nordic countries to rather large sizes and then shipped by sailing ship to England and thereafter resawn by local timber merchants to whatever scantlings they needed.

By the way I have some 2x16" in 7 metre lenghts in my timber storage. Also a few hundred metres of 6 inch thick live edge slabs mostly in lenghts between 5 and 8 metres.
Large timbers are not that unusual after all.
 
By that standard I got a good price.
I paid 149 Euro, which using todays converter is £128.93p
Having never bought oak before, I am very pleased how straight this is, Some cupping, but I have just run it through the thicknesser and it came out flat both sides at 47 mm. :eusa-clap: No major flaws or knots either.
There was a little sticky label on the bin saying "superior white oak", but the storeman has less English than I have Greek so I couldnt ask. 8-) It does have a very nice grain, I might remember to take a picture later. :lol:

My DW745 table saw is just about coping with the thickness. Some minor burning on the cut but nothing a good sanding wont get rid of. I cant believe the lack of waste. When I make a bandsaw trinket box I'm looking at anything from 25 to 50% wastage . So far, This is going to be a lot less than 10%, with most of that going to be from final sanding and groove rebating.
 
Mike G":2zj4op9n said:
9fingers":2zj4op9n said:
......."Good morning Bob, standard boards are around 8" wide and 3.6m long. Total cost for one plank is £98.50."

This was for 27mm sawn square edge euro oak so about half the quantity you bought.

Bob

Bob, if I've got my maths right that's about £5067 per cu m. The going rate is in the region of £1400 to £1750 per cu m. I hope you didn't buy that board, or, if you did, I hope it is a really extraordinary piece of wood.

No I did not buy it. I started the dialogue with him just after Xmas as I would need some timber when in lockdown2. During lockdown1 the big yards round here, initially closed and then went click, prepay and collect only and I'd like to see my timber before I pay.
I used to get my timber through a mate who had a door company and got spoilt by convenience, good pricing and quality boards. He has closed the business now so the "door" has closed for me :lol:
I've opened a cash account with Sydenhams so will try them once I know what I want for my forthcoming laminated door project.

Bob
 
I've just checked the invoice and its measured in CBM, and that price is 2750 euro.

I'm a retail customer with no discount so I'm happy with what I have.
 
The big timber merchants are struggling to sell Iroko and Sapele in the capacity that they used to now that Accoya has taken a massive part of the Joinery Market and they've been sending absolutely mahoosive pieces of timber out when you used to have to request such large sizes.

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I'd call these boards, but I seem to remember seeing a chart somewhere from an old book that went over what dictated what a board, plank, stick, and so on was.
 
Interesting I wonder if that explains why the Sapele I picked up for the the front door was remarkably good value and also really good widths. I have it in my head it was around the €1100 a cubic. Accoya isn't really on the market here which was a surprise.
 
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