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Mike G":1lg8uk32 said:
As for the principles of the discussion......diamond stones are a bit like "scary sharp" without the faff of changing paper, torn sheets, cleaning the glass etc. For chisels and planes (and kitchen knives) I find it hard to beat. For scissors, scythes, draw knives, spokeshaves etc etc.....don't chuck out your oil stones.
I think you've done a better job then I did of stating the principle behind my approach. One or two diamond stones can make your most frequent sharpening jobs much easier and quicker, but they won't do everything. For me, one and a strop does that everyday job, and I've still got the old-fashioned methods for the rest.
 
One interesting (I think) aside. I watched one of Matt Estlea's videos recently and he just uses one diamond stone: a big coarse (240 maybe?) one. He doesn't use it for the tools: he just uses it as an easy way to flatten his 1000 and 8000 (?) grit waterstone before every use.

That seems to me to be another perfectly valid approach and I guess it's cheaper than buying multiple DMT stones.
 
Dr.Al":2sqlynmb said:
...... I watched one of Matt Estlea's videos recently......

I feel like I'd catch ADHD if I watched more than 10 seconds of any of his output. I can't cope with the over-enthusiastic shouty tone. Pity, as I have no doubt that the content is first rate.
 
Mike G":3qvy7ch0 said:
Dr.Al":3qvy7ch0 said:
...... I watched one of Matt Estlea's videos recently......

I feel like I'd catch AFDHD if I watched more than 10 seconds of any of his output. I can't cope with the over-enthusiastic shouty tone. Pity, as I have no doubt that the content is first rate.

Fair enough: I can certainly understand that feeling as I get the same with quite a lot of youtubers. I've only come across Matt Estlea recently and, while I think the style can get a bit grating & american-y at times, the way he explains things seems very good to me & I've learnt quite a bit from his videos.

I guess another big difference is that I have a LOT more to learn than you so every bit of guidance helps me :)
 
I like Matt's videos too - one I recently watched giving his opinion on proper plane usage was really good.

I've ordered one of those plates to give it a go - I use the scary sharp method on glass but I need to order new paper soon and having never used a diamond plate thought I'd give one a go. I've ordered the super coarse one as I have some old blades which need a lot of work and don't have a good way of doing this at the moment.
 
I thought I'd buy one of the coarse ones for flattening my (dad's) oilstone, which has a slight hollow to it. Until I saw the price...
 
Steve Maskery":2r43endx said:
I thought I'd buy one of the coarse ones for flattening my (dad's) oilstone, which has a slight hollow to it. Until I saw the price...

I’ve done that on a paving slab.
According to your mate Jacob the hollow is a good thing!
 
Steve Maskery":hcj3xodz said:
I thought I'd buy one of the coarse ones for flattening my (dad's) oilstone, which has a slight hollow to it. Until I saw the price...

Sorry, when I said coarse I took others advice and bought the 240 - I also started on the coarsest and thought not at that price :lol: The blades I have aren't dreadful just rounded over by (other people's) poor free hand sharpening.
 
If anyone really does want to buy some coarser plates for less than the high price charged by the linked ebay listing, there are some other options:

 
Well I succumbed and they arrived today. At first sight they appear to be absolutely excellent.
My only gripe would be that they are not labelled. The sleeve that they come in is clearly labelled but the plates themselves are not. I've made some Dymo labels but I don't know how long they will last. I might have to have a go at engraving.
 
Steve Maskery":n5k5eq43 said:
Well I succumbed and they arrived today. At first sight they appear to be absolutely excellent.
My only gripe would be that they are not labelled. The sleeve that they come in is clearly labelled but the plates themselves are not. I've made some Dymo labels but I don't know how long they will last. I might have to have a go at engraving.

You're lucky you got a label :evil:
 
Steve Maskery":2lpjdwdl said:
Well I succumbed and they arrived today. At first sight they appear to be absolutely excellent.
My only gripe would be that they are not labelled. The sleeve that they come in is clearly labelled but the plates themselves are not. I've made some Dymo labels but I don't know how long they will last. I might have to have a go at engraving.

Yep, I suppose I should have warned you of that. It wasn't an issue for me as a stuck them down to some bits of aluminium and use some number punches to mark the aluminium.

Or you could get something like this etching pen and write on the back.
 
When you first use them, they will shed lots of bits, you will be convinced that they are faulty, but It is common with all of these plates and they will soon settle down.
 
Lurker":3gx9llzr said:
When you first use them, they will shed lots of bits, you will be convinced that they are faulty, but It is common with all of these plates and they will soon settle down.

:text-goodpost:

Even the manual for the expensive DMT ones say that this happens. They also feel quite coarse for the first few strokes (and take off more metal than you might expect) but this settles down very quickly.
 
Dr.Al":7dgj4rdf said:
Interesting. How long did they last? I realise it's very dependent on how much one uses them, but I'm curious nonetheless.
Sorry Doc, I forgot to respond to this.
Hard to say really but I guess between 6 months and a year.
 
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