• Hi all and welcome to TheWoodHaven2 brought into the 21st Century, kicking and screaming! We all have Alasdair to thank for the vast bulk of the heavy lifting to get us here, no more so than me because he's taken away a huge burden of responsibility from my shoulders and brought us to this new shiny home, with all your previous content (hopefully) still intact! Please peruse and feed back. There is still plenty to do, like changing the colour scheme, adding the banner graphic, tweaking the odd setting here and there so I have added a new thread in the 'Technical Issues, Bugs and Feature Requests' forum for you to add any issues you find, any missing settings or just anything you'd like to see added/removed from the feature set that Xenforo offers. We will get to everything over the coming weeks so please be patient, but add anything at all to the thread I mention above and we promise to get to them over the next few days/weeks/months. In the meantime, please enjoy!

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God, I HATE BT. I HATE and DESPISE BT. Everything I ever have had to do with them has been a complete nightmare.

I've had a BT email address since the year dot. Having worked from home since the mid 80s I also had BT internet before there even was an internet, when you dialled your company up using your (BT monopoly at that time) phone line with a 128kbps modem and listened to a lot of screeching and then watched communications from your company spell out on your green computer screen letter by letter.

All was fine at my last house, but it all went to cock when we moved in 2000. By then BT had progressed to ISDN. To cut a very long and very tortuous story short, that involved many, many service visits from helpful but usually clueless "technicians", I gave up on BT after five years, got Virgin cable in and have been a generally happy camper ever since.

I used to do business with people all over the world, travelled a lot, and have many good friends from those good old days. Still visit some of them when I can face the torture that is modern-day air travel. I pay BT £5.00 a month to keep my old email address because people from those days still use it to contact me, even though I have tried to wean them all off that address onto my gmail one.

The BT address regularly fails me, (something to do with the massive Yahoo data breach a few years ago, and nefarious persons trying to break into my account, I suspect) saying that it doesn't recognise my password and prompting me to change the password. This necessitates filling in some "memorable info" (my mother's maiden name). Two weeks ago I went through the same rigmarole but now computer says no... it won't recognise my memorable data. Like I would forget my mother's maiden name???

Has anyone tried to get tech support for an email problem from BT lately? What a flaming NIGHTMARE. First of all there's no phone number. Anywhere. You have to go on a webchat. Which takes forever. And because I only have an email address and no BT phone number they go round and round in circles until they finally decide they need to call you and put you through to a human being. I've been on screen and then on the phone for an hour. And could they fix my problem? Nope. They are sending me a letter with a codeword. When I get that I have to phone them and tell them the codeword and then they will unlock my email.

All this to see if, among others, my mate in Spain, who is completely computer illiterate and insists on using my btmail, has been in contact.

Thank you for bearing with me. I needed a rant.

God, I bloody HATE B bloody T. I need a drink. Is the sun over the yardarm yet?
 
I can only give sympathy.

Go ahead and knock a few back, plus another one or two :D

The sun set a long time ago, it is quite dark outside.
 
Looks like you're having a bit of a BT moment there ole chap. :shock:

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They're all a bunch of ******* *******! :lol:
 
Morning Terry

Hope you're feeling better :)

Found this on the 'My BT' site regarding Premium Mail ...

you can always contact us on 0808 100 6778 - Monday to Friday 9am to 9pm, Saturday and Sunday 9am to 6pm

It may be the sales department who'll just pass you on the the main query number, but if you speak to them nicely and explain all the problems, you might get connected to support staff over here in the UK. You have nothing to lose by trying it.

BT mail has, in my experience, become far less reliable over the last few months. I think they have outsourced some of their hardware, probably to save money to give to likes of the Football Association.

When you get it running again, have a look at Auto-Forwarding so that any incoming mail gets sent to an address of your choice. That way you don't have to log in to BT to check your mail. I assume it's available on Premium Mail.

Cheers

Dave
 
Thanks for that Dave.

I have that phone number - it's where I was put through to after the webchat. Unfortunately it takes you to a callcentre in India and all the joy and test of endurance that entails.

I remember the good old days when customer service was provided by people of the same nationality who took pride in excellent tech support. I used to work for a company that had that ethos. And if you weren't satisfied you wrote a letter to the MD and he answered it. Fat chance of that nowadays. And they call that progress. I'm getting too old for modern life.
 
selectortone":2kyf7wbr said:
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I remember the good old days when customer service was provided by people of the same nationality who took pride in excellent tech support. ......

They are not all tarred with the same brush, Terry.

My mobile provider is Three. I had a problem with my phone accessing data and so called their support line for the first time. Yes, it is in India. Lovely lady in Level One who very quickly put me through to another delightful lady in Level Two. She quickly worked out what the problem was, came up with the solution.

While we were waiting for the Three system to do its stuff, I asked her if she was located in India. There was a very guarded reply in the affirmative and I guess that she must have had some awkward customers in the past so I quickly put her at her ease by asking whereabouts as I'd been to India a couple of times, loved the country and the people. We chatted away quite happily about various aspects of India, changes that were taking place etc. Anyway, the Three system kicked in, my problem was very quickly solved and the cherry on the cake was that a couple of days later she called me back to check that everything was working fine.

I call that pretty good customer service. From India as well.
 
I'll raise you one bungling and incompetent support operation...namely TSO Host support based, I believe, in Hungary.

"You need to use a Mail client that is compatible with TLS v1.2"

" But I am using a Mail client that is compatible wth TLS v1.2. Apple Mail v9.3 has been compatible with TLS 1.2 for many years. I am using Apple Mail with other email accounts that use TLS v1.2 without any problem. You changed the server at your end last night. Since then I have nt been able to access my emails"

"We did not change the server. We altered the email settings to support TLS v1. Which we were required to do."

"I did not mean physically change the server. I meant change the server settings which you did."

"You need to use a Mail client that is compatible with TLS v1.2"


Grrrrrrr...... :twisted:
 
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