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Best touristy things in southern Wales

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OK, guys, I realize this is short notice, but maybe you can be Friendly Native
Guides for a bit:

As I think I hinted a couple of months ago, I'm going to be going to a medieval event at Raglan Castle in Wales next week. My daughter, a friend, and I will be flying into Manchester on Saturday and then taking a train south from there. We are staying at an Airbnb in Raglan. I've rented a car from Monday through Friday, and want to get about 3 days of sightseeing in. We've got Stonehenge and Chepstow Castle penciled in, but beyond that, assuming I haven't killed myself by driving on the wrong side of the road, what are the can't miss stuff I need to add to the list? Medieval and woodwork things are a plus, but we have a variety of interests.

Thanks...

Kirk
 
I live about 40 minutes from Stonehenge near Bath and to my shame have never visited. I keep meaning to visit but have only ever driven past. It looks very interesting. My brother visits regularly.

The Kennet and Avon canal is very pretty, especially Honey Street and the Vale of Pewsey. And some good pubs there.
https://www.visitwiltshire.co.uk/towns- ... ey-p476513

Avebury is interesting and near Stonehenge. its a stone circle a bit like Stonehenge but wider. But there is a quaint village plonked in the corner.
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/avebury

If you are driving to stone henge, then the Roman baths in Bath are interesting too.
https://www.romanbaths.co.uk

For some industrial history the big pit coal mining experience is good, but maybe not what you are after. It's in an old coal mine with a proper tour underground.
https://museum.wales/bigpit/

The river Wye us also nice and you can hire kayaks if that's your thing. It's a gentle paddle.

To be honest the pubs in Wales are traditionally not great but that is changing.
Here is the best place to.look at pubs.
http://www.thegoodpubguide.co.uk

Woodwork I'm struggling to think of something. It's more of a drive but there is the Mary Rose boat which was King Henry the 8th flag shop which got sank in the Spanish armada in 1554.
http://www.maryrose.org

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Just looked up Raglan castle and it isn't that far into Wales. For me one of the most beautiful parts of the UK is the Gower, down beyond Swansea. Some stunning beaches and not too busy if you pick the right one. South Wales in general is so green it seems to have the best the Uk countryside has to offer in one small area.
 
Kirk,

I'f you're driving from Wales to Stonehenge, you will be crossing the River Severn and passing Bristol.

Two of our most famous Victorian engineer's achievements are there to be seen.

SS Great Britain.

http://www.ssgreatbritain.org/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7qHM0s611QIVBbXtCh2KaAtMEAAYASAAEgJfYPD_BwE

And while you're there, take a look at the Clifton Suspension Bridge.

https://www.cliftonbridge.org.uk/visit

In fact Bristol is a good day out if you programme a couple of things in like that.; culture, entertainment, history, eating out, etc.

Have a great time.
 
Ah! you beat me to it suggesting Bristol and SS Great Britain Malc

Whilst in the area, Gloucester (pronounced Gloster!!) is worth a look around.

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-th ... gloucester.

The cathedral has some renovations going on but still open I believe.

http://www.gloucestercathedral.org.uk/

You won't be far from Cheltenham (cheltenum - silent h!!) either might be worth a look round?

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractio ... gland.html

Bourton on the water might appeal as a "pretty English village"

https://www.bourtoninfo.com/

HTH

Bob
 
kirkpoore1":1rlyrh0a said:
OK, guys, I realize this is short notice, but maybe you can be Friendly Native
Guides for a bit:

As I think I hinted a couple of months ago, I'm going to be going to a medieval event at Raglan Castle in Wales next week. My daughter, a friend, and I will be flying into Manchester on Saturday and then taking a train south from there. We are staying at an Airbnb in Raglan. I've rented a car from Monday through Friday, and want to get about 3 days of sightseeing in. We've got Stonehenge and Chepstow Castle penciled in, but beyond that, assuming I haven't killed myself by driving on the wrong side of the road, what are the can't miss stuff I need to add to the list? Medieval and woodwork things are a plus, but we have a variety of interests.

Thanks...

Kirk
If you're in the Stonehenge area, you're around 15 minutes from me. If you can make a detour into Salisbury, Magna Carta is a 'must see' for every visitor, as is a tower tour of the cathedral, where a guide takes you up into the medieval roof space and thence upwards to the base of the spire. Stonehenge IMO is highly overrated
- Rob
 
Bristol, Bath, Stonehenge and Salisbury would make a good route.
Overrated is probably the wrong word but a lot of folk are disappointed by the size of Stonehenge. But take into account its age, lack of mechanisation and the mass of the stones, its very impressive. Sadly you no longer get to crawl over them.
The Cathedral spire tour is a must. I went on a Technical visit a few years back when it was being renovated and got to climb a fair way up the spire. There's a small hatch to the outside, looking out was very scary!
We also walked on the ceiling domes above the nave which are only a few inches thick but have survived the test of time.

Rod
 
Kirk,

The cathedral in St Davids is worth a visit, set in a very pretty village ( although it is a city because it has a cathedral) in a beautiful part of Pembrokeshire.


I hope you have a great trip

Paul
 
If you like books Hay-on-Wye is about an hour's drive north of Raglan. It's a picturesque little country town absolutely crammed with second-hand bookshops. Beautiful countryside on the way too with lots of old castle ruins dotted about the place.
 
Rod":30b3glrh said:
Overrated is probably the wrong word but a lot of folk are disappointed by the size of Stonehenge.
Rod
When you have to drive past it twice a day to go to a from work and especially on a Friday afternoon, it rapidly ceases to be impressive. I had a very good friend who was of the firm opinion that the stones ought to be ground up for road ballast :D - Rob
 
Woodbloke":7jok6024 said:
Rod":7jok6024 said:
Overrated is probably the wrong word but a lot of folk are disappointed by the size of Stonehenge.
Rod
When you have to drive past it twice a day to go to a from work and especially on a Friday afternoon, it rapidly ceases to be impressive. I had a very good friend who was of the firm opinion that the stones ought to be ground up for road ballast :D - Rob

I was more disappointed to find they got the heavy plant machinery in to put the stones back up, in the 50's I think .. who's to say that's how they were supposed to be ! ?
 
We stayed in South Wales quite a while ago and two things of interest are

Big Pit

St Fagans

The wife liked St Fagans and for me it was Big Pit
 
Both Raglan Castle and Chepstow Castle are ruins, albeit interesting. If you want to see a medieval castle still being occupied, then Berkeley castle, about 50 minutes from Raglan, may be worth a visit - see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Castle

Other places of historic interest possibly worth visiting in the Bristol area are Dyrham House, Lacock Abbey and Tyntesfield

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyrham_Park

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacock_Abbey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyntesfield

Enjoy your stay.

Martin
 
Wells Cathedral is one the most beautiful cathedrals, IMO. There is some superb design detail where they integrated the new visitor centre with the cathedral. Also a very old chiming clock inside. Try and go early morning if you can.

There's a reasonable timber yard at Pontrilas.

And the two bridges across the Severn have their own 'magic' and beauty.

If you go anywhere near Hereford then pop into Pen Tools - woodworking emporium ( and nothing to with pen turning !)

Bring umbrellas, macintoshes, wellington boots (galoshes).
 
Thanks, guys, there's some great ones there. I don't think I'm quite ready for driving in a bigger place like Bristol, but Salisbury Cathedral sounds excellent. So does Berkeley Castle. I'd already heard of Hay-on-Wye and it sounds really good. Anything open early (like Wells Cathedral) would be good for a morning excursion. And I think old clocks are really cool. :)

I'll put a link to this thread on my phone so we can evaluate while we're on the plane or train.

Kirk
 
You don't need to worry about driving in Bristol as they have a stupid blanket 20mph speed limit everywhere !

If you do go to Wells check out the chairs up by the altar.

The clock is thought to be the second oldest clock in England :shock:
 
Almost every large town and city has a park and ride scheme which are all on the outskirts. They're all online, so it might help to plan a trip to a town or city by plotting the P&Rs and going from there.

Let the buses take the strain.

Now me and Mission Control have reached a certain age and we're entitle to bus passes, we usr P&Rs all the time. :)
 
kirkpoore1":3tbcfq6z said:
I don't think I'm quite ready for driving in a bigger place like Bristol,
Kirk

Where's you sense of adventure. I have just come back from New York. Bristol would be a cinch! :)
 
Have a good trip Kirk - thumbs up to Wells & Salisbury.

Mrs P and me visited Salisbury Cathedral only a couple of weeks ago - stunning building. 8-)
 
I've lived all over that area, from Swansea to Swindon and without doubt I'd say head to the "city" of Bath. It's got history in every pore, so much so most of it is a world heritage site.
Don't be fooled by it being a city, you can walk from one end to the other in 20 minutes. Also for eating / drinking and seeing some culture it's brilliant.

Just to be clear , I don't work for their tourist board :-)

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OK, folks, T minus 13 hours and counting. 292 miles to Chicago-O'Hare, then liftoff at 7:20 PM. I've got this thread bookmarked and will report in when I can. Not sure about pics until I get back, though. :)

Kirk
 
The Wells cathedral clock is fascinating and can be seen from inside and outside the building. Outside there are a pair of figures that move and hit bells with hammers. Inside the buildingthe clock has automatons of knights jousting on horseback. If you go into the cathedral its fascinating to look at the various carvings at the top of the columns. Another couple of things around the cathedral worth looking at are Vicars Close - a cobbled street built and lived in continuously since the 14th century and also the Chapter house where the stone steps are so worn from centries of use. There is also the moated Bishop's palace with swans that are trained to ring a bell for food.

We used to near the city and always found it a pleasant place to visit.

Misterfish
 
Hi guys. Things are going well for the most part. Raglan is a kick ass castle, and everyone has been great. My daughter and I did Stonehenge on Monday. I managed to drive on the left without accident and only got honked at once. But that was by a BMW driver, and I've had to apply horn and brakes because of them many times so figure he deserved it.

Only bad thing is that I dropped my passport on the train I called the train co right afterwards but that was on Saturday of the holiday weekend so I'm going to call again on Tuesday. If that fails then it's replacement time.

Kirk
 
I think you missed a few letters "out" Kirk [emoji3]

Yes BMW drivers do have a bad reputation but completely unfounded [emoji18]

I've seen lots of lost items being placed on the Railway Co's Twitter Feed you could try posting there.

Sorry about the weather - autumn (fall) has come early.

Enjoy the rest of your trip

Rod
 
Proper job, Kirk!

Keep at it. You'll end up emigrating!

Did you have 5 or even 6 on the floor or was one of those wussy automatic thingies?!
 
having just spent 3 weeks driving in the USA I can see how driving in the UK would be more of a challenge for you. Glad you are getting about a bit while over there. Did you drop your passport on purpose in order to extend your stay? ;)
 
No luck on finding the passport, though the Welsh train folks only round uo the lost and found once a week, so it could show by Saturday. In the mean time I'm getting an appointment with the embassy in London to get a new one on Thursday or Friday.


Having had an exciting drive to Newport (featuring 3 rountabout assisted U-turns), my daughter and I spent a pleasant afternoon looking at the Caerleon Roman ruins. Pretty cool, and they have a Roman stone coffin with a skeleton in it. They did a forensic projection of what he looked like, and it came out looking just like a guy I know.

More later...

Kirk
 
I got up this morning at 4:30, on the road before 5, in to Swindon by 6:30, and at Paddington around 8 AM. Ate breakfast then walked to the US Embassy by 9:15. Passport in hand about 2 hours later. Really nice, professional folks. I then walked to the V&A and took some more pictures of stuff I missed last year, then on a train by 2:45 and back at Raglan by 5:30. Easy! :)

I will post pics came when I get back. I have a paid PB account and they're still showing on the list.

Kirk
 
I am impressed at the speed at which you can get a new passport. Is your address in your passport? It is in the French ones but not in the British.
 
We get our passports from Newport.
Had to do a trip there a few years back to renew our younger daughter's one urgently.
London a lot nearer to us!

Rod
 
OK, I'm back home. I got in at 9:30 PM last night, that's 3:30 AM to you folks. I tried unsuccessfully to lose ID one more time (Customs agent stuck my driver's license into my temporary passport when she handed it back to me, and I didn't realize it at the time), but all turned out OK. It did take about 45 minutes to clear Chicago traffic and then another 4 hours home.

I had a great time. I have to call it an "adventure", because it all came out OK despite the setbacks. Let's see--

1. Smoking plane brakes meant that we had to stop on the tarmac away from the terminal and be bused to the building. Hour delay.
2. Asked by the station agent "Are you moving house?" Between the three of us we had 10 bags, including 3 that weighted 40+ lbs.
3. Lost my passport. Train folks never found it, or as far as I can tell, even looked. Oh well, my fault.
4. My daughter had reserved a room in Raglan (the town) via Airbnb. The owner was not there when we finally located the place and wasn't going to be back until Tuesday because of bank holiday, so we had to make other arrangements (which turned out cheaper but were not usually in walking distance of the castle). My daughter is getting a refund.
5. Ah yes, the roads. More later.
6. "How did you guys ever travel before GPS [i.e. satnav]?" "We stayed home." That, my friends, is a direct quote from an English person.
7. No train ticket ever worked to open the turnstile when leaving or entering a train platform. Fortunately, that was only necessary 3 times.
8. Beer good. Pies good. Fish good. Salad bad. Three out of four? Good enough for me. I did have Indian food. My opinion? You need decent Mexican food, and you need it right away.
9. The cheese was better than the beer. You can't live only on cheese, but I was willing to try for a couple of days.

The castle was fantastic. Except for the parking lot out front, you had to look hard to see anything modern from the top of the towers. The landscape was out of a painting--everything seemed much closer than it does in the flatness of Illinois. Even the clouds were closer--mostly low level strato-cumulus with tantalizing holes of sunshine, rather than mid-level stratus and giant thunderstorms that you get here. The weather changed about every 20 minutes, but mostly was dry enough for us. Saturday night we laid down on our backs on the grass in the fountain courtyard and watched shooting stars and satellites while telling stories. There were several Aussies there and they're much bigger bullshitters than anybody else.:)

OK, let's talk about roads.
1. You've shaved all the shoulders off of all your roads and built roundabouts with them. Don't try to deny it.
2. Somewhere you have big mowers mounted on trucks that drive along country roads and mow the hedges back and the underside of the trees up in order to form green tunnels. I kept wanting to see one of these, but never did.
3. Speaking of hedges and shoulders, WTF? I drove 8 miles on a country road in the wrong direction one time (following a native, mind you) before I could find a space wide enough to pull over and figure out where the hell we were, and then turn around. Why are there hedges planted right up to the damn road? What do you have to hide?
4. If you ride a bicycle in the countryside, you are taking your life in your hands.
5. How about some directional signs like "A40 North" or "B4293 East" for a change? There are too many clouds to navigate off of the sun, and no place to pull over and figure it out.
6. The "Tank Crossing" signs down on the road to Stonehenge are very cool, even though I didn't see any tanks.
7. I have a Scottish friend on Facebook who bitches whenever Formula 1 is pre-empted on TV. I'm going to tell him to rent a car and go driving on 4-digit B roads in Wales. He'll have all the F1 he can stomach.
8. Farm trucks drive faster in towns than they do in the country. Especially loaded.

OK, that's enough on traffic. You know all those things anyway. I will say that the surface traffic in Newport is significantly more confusing and dangerous than the surface traffic in the Chicago suburbs at rush our.

Anyway, I'll post some pics when I can get them off of my camera. I think Photobucket will be able to host them.

Kirk
still tired...
 
Very good Kirk :lol: :eusa-clap: Sounds like you had a ball matey!

The roads can be a nightmare here. The country roads/lanes are a 'car killer'. The farmers can only trim back the hedgerows when instructed or at specific times of the year due to wildlife habitation. My work's van/bus has lost a few wing mirrors (both sides) on country lanes due to the overgrown hedgerows and oncoming traffic racing for the gap because they can't slow down in time. :x There seems to be more idiots racing around on our country lanes these days - mainly women I have observed. It's unbelievable how fast they drive at times. One lady told me it's because she was in a rush and had too much to do. I agree about the cyclists (I certainly wouldn't ride a push bike on our roads) and horses too - lots of horse riders on the country lanes.

What is it all coming to. :|
 
Excellent appraisal, Kirk ! You sound like Rich Hall ... :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwOG-64Zeao

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Driving in America is also great.

1) I love the fact that you have so much spare white paint in the US that you can paint STOP lines on every road junction in every community, suburb, town, residential area

2) and the California roll is not something that you eat

3) I also looked everywhere for that nice Chinese gentleman, Mr Xing, although Ped does seem a strange Christian name for a Chinaman.

Pinch has hit the nail on the head. The worst time to drive in the UK is mid-afternoon when all the Mum's are pretending to drive as they hurtle dementedly down narrow country lanes to pick up Gislane, Tamsin and Humphrey from their respective schools. Yes, they are late. Just need to get up earlier, I guess.

And driving in Wales is not helped by their insistence on confusing drivers by labelling road signs in English and words with only consonants.
 
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